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Does anyone know where I can find a Die Clash overlay template for Morgan dollars? I have been searching, but can't seem to find one. Any leads would greatly be appreciated. Thx Bri |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thank you. I may order something from him if I can't find a site online for free. Anybody know of any sites? Free is ALWAYS better.
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Pillar of the Community
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it takes a bit of digging but they can be found on VamWOrld
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don't have the link hand or I would post it..
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Pillar of the Community
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Taken from an older CCF post:  What is a clash guide supposed to do? Is it to show the probable clash contact points at various degrees of rotation? Edited by zeewool
05/17/2011 07:21 am
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What is a clash guide supposed to do? Is it to show the probable clash contact points at various degrees of rotation? Precisely, although the best usage I get from it is to prove to people that, "No, this can't be a clash. There's nothing to clash there." |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I have one also and I used to use it allot more often than I do now but it is a nice tool to have when you need it. Both sides rotate on a center axis so even if the Reverse is rotated you can see where the clash could have taken place
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Thank you everyone for your help. Zeewool you are da bomb! Appreciate it.
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If you truly want to understand clash episodes and associated die rotation (not to mention lateral offset clashes), you MUST get a roto-flip of some sorts. There are a few on the market. You can also do it yourself by using any good photo software that can do overalys. I use Photoshop Elements V7.0, but there are other software packages that can do it for less money.
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I think that I am following everything everyone is saying except the "lateral offset clashes"....... Are those clashes 'beside' similar clashes that appear to be at the same degree of rotation, parallel to each other, yet separated by one or two millimeters? If so, are there any examples of one die with the two clashes, (but also with only a single clash stage)?
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 Thanks for the link bio..... MAD is a term that I have expelled from my vocabulary when concerning Morgans...... yes, my description would lead a person to think MAD, but a press that is capable of a MAD clash would also be susceptible to striking MAD coins. When a die sinks into a silver planchet, this is made possible by the delineation of density between the steel die and silver planchet..... During a die clash, steel meets steel, and the sinking of the die into the opposing metal is minimized due to the relative hardness of the opposing die..... I do not think that it would be irrational to think that the dies may have reverberated (bounced off) of each other (the equal and opposite reaction thing)..... so that all three of these clash marks could have been caused by the same strike.... I think that is possible also that three separate clashes occurred in rapid succession prior to the clutch being disengaged. Why are the clashes not aligned on top of each other rather than beside each other though? I might think that die basining may be the culprit...... the convex profile of both die faces not only limits the areas of potential clash, it also provides a less than stable impact point..... I would think that although clashes are caused by field to field contact, the angle of impact caused by basining could explain the offset appearance of these marks. |
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Pillar of the Community
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I would believe the dies were clashed several times, and perhaps rapidly for this example, here's the typical IN clash rotation guage  this should be the G clash rotaion - 5 degree's  this is plus +5 degree rotaion  |
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Thanks for posting all of this! I used the first one to find several clashes I have previously overlooked on my 1879P. Great stuff!
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Pillar of the Community
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while the die clash rotation guides are good at first, one will notice that depending on where the clash is will determine if there could be a letter transfer, which is an attribution point...after a short time one can learn from observation whether the letter transfer could/should be there. then one would take into consideration the dies state and if its been errased(polished away) or the dies erroded the letter away, such is the case with the 1886 P VAM 1 VNA, VAM's not assigned... |
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I was referring to the 1886-O VAM-19 as an example of a lateral offset clash episode. \\
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