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1982 Nickel How Many Steps Would You Say?

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take a gander at this 1982 nickel and a guesstimate on how many steps.
I'm going to say 4 steps.

On a side note I completed a 1962- to 1995 whitman folder.
the hardest nickels to find were the s mints.
took me a two months and about 500 rolls to complete the collection.
In those 500 rolls I found:
3 silver nickels
1 pre 90 nickel with clear steps, the one you are looking at now.
zero Buffalo nickels.

would you say its harder to find (pre 1990) nickels with clear steps rather than silver?
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With the cuts through all those under the area between the first and second pillar, that pretty eliminating those as "Full steps" you are left with partial steps to count. This is the way some collectors count steps when complete steps are not present.
I think you have 3/4 full steps from the top three going down, which only adds up to 2 and 1/4 and then there are fragments here and there that would have me estimate this is good as a net 3 step Jefferson nickel.
I know, it appears there are more but the cuts are not permitted on full step nickels.
Also, we don't count steps, we count "Full steps" for this series. At least that's how I understand it.
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Now, that is a nice 1982 though as they come. A bit above average. I would like to see the other side of this coin.
I congratulate you on completing your set and am always glad to hear another collector take interest in the Jefferson nickel.
I think each date and mint mark has it's own scarcity factor when it comes to having step details.
To answer your question in a general way about finding silver nickels being easier than others with step details with a yes or no would not be a fair answer. For example a 1969 D Jefferson is just about impossible to find with much step detail, where a 1971 is most commonly found with 5 and more in UNC rolls.
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wheezydog, I know what you mean about the 69D I have one that is supposed to be an MS65 UNC but it only has 2 steps and a couple of lite scratches so I don't think its a 65.
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I see 2 "Full Steps".
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wheezydog, I know what you mean about the 69D I have one that is supposed to be an MS65 UNC but it only has 2 steps and a couple of lite scratches so I don't think its a 65.


Is this a graded coin by ANACS or PCGS or NGC?
If so, it might still be MS65. You wouldn't be confusing the lack of step detail with wear from circulation would you?

The lack of detail, such as the steps on a coin comes from the lack detail remaining on the die that it struck with. If the die has been worn and polished or is filled with grease and micro metal dust, the coin cannot have detail as it would from a new working die.
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Sorry it was an 84 not an 82.
here is the front of the coin and a new picture of the back.

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Take a look at this 2000.
Let me know what you think of this one.

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1984 dated Jeffersons, both P and D are close to Type 2 reverse 1982 P & D nickels in appearance and how well they are struck. They are all desirable with high step count and higher mint state.
Your 1984 D might be a MS64 at best. There are just too many contact marks, especially on the obverse to make MS65.
The 2000 is probably AU and common to be found with 5 or 6 steps. It is common and no big deal. Recent years it is easy to find nickels like that.
I wish there was a little more interest in AU coins with good step and full step detail for those tougher dates.
I still collect AU nickels with unusual step counts hoping someday that there will be a split in the Jefferson collector base. I'd be thrilled to find an AU 1953 S with 5 steps.I would value it highly even though it is AU and on the price guides, there is no grade scale for Jefferson's with Full Steps in less than uncirculated condition.

I wonder, if you had an MS67 1970 D with 2 full steps in one hand and in the other a MS62 1970 D with 5 sharp uninterrupted full steps, which would you prefer?

fur_coin_talk, when discussing things like full head quarters, full split band dimes, full bell line half dollars, and other coins as we are talking about full step nickels, you really have to look at each coin and mint mark by itself as each one has it's own typical characteristics. It has nothing to do with circulation and nothing to do with how old the coin is. It all has to do with the conditions of the coins dies when it was struck.
If you are interested in Jefferson nickels then I suggest you might want to look into this very helpful book.

A Guide Book of Buffalo and Jefferson Nickels

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I bought it at a bargain on an auction site. It breaks down the series by date and mint mark and you might find understanding these things can help you understand other series as well.
There are certain factors that make one coin better than the next. Some of these are :
eye appeal, mint state, strike quality, rarity, collector demand. Good luck.
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Is this a graded coin by ANACS or PCGS or NGC?
If so, it might still be MS65. You wouldn't be confusing the lack of step detail with wear from circulation would you?



No this was a coin I got free(friend) in a 2*2 and labled UNC
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Wheezydog has spent the time to offer some great advise ... I suggest and hope you accept it.

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