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Does Anyone Here Have A Ryedale Coin Sorter?

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Hello all,

I am not a penny hoarder, but are considering it as silver is drying up and all. I always unfortunately have the go big or go home attitude. Just looking for opinions on it
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If you got the space it might, maybe be worth it.
Ryedales will sort fast, so if you are looking to sort a bunch of pennies ( more than a average roll searcher), you'd have to have a bank (or banks) to regularly dump a ton of coins off. Personally I don't think it'll be worth it, especially if you were going to buy a ryedale. Good luck though, whatever you do.
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If you have a supply of cents, and free time, and an outlet for copper cents and dump zinc cents, it's doable. Even if you get 50% over face after all expenses, you'll need to go through about half a million cents at 20% copper (and falling) to pay for the machine before you make any profit. You'll also need to learn how to tinker with the machine as use causes it to lose accuracy.

Keep in mind you're prolly racing the fed to pull copper.

I'm betting some chemist out there has already come up with a liquid dense enough for zincolns to float and coppers to sink. A tank of that and a simple skimmer, and you could sort as fast as you could dump buckets of coins in it.
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I'm betting some chemist out there has already come up with a liquid dense enough for zincolns to float and coppers to sink. A tank of that and a simple skimmer, and you could sort as fast as you could dump buckets of coins in it.

An interesting challenge, for sure, Fred. While this might be possible, the odds seem long to me. Liquids, other than Hg, of course, invariably have a density that is in the realm of about 0.7 to 1.4 g/cc. Zinc and copper, while considerably different in density, are much higher than this.

Something that would likely offer a better alternative would be an air blower system with the air speed and distribution pattern set such that lighter zinc coins are blown into a further hopper while heavier copper coins are blown less and fall into a closer hopper. A bit of experimentation (tuning?) could be done to determine the correct air velocity and distribution for this to work. Might also need to adjust the vertical drop from the coin feed to the hoppers. This should be pretty effective but I don't know what percentage of the coins would end up in the correct hoppers. My guess would be somewhere in the upper 90s percentile. Coin impacts would be the cause of errant coins in the wrong hoppers and that is sufficiently random that it cannot be predicted with any accuracy. While not a perfect separation mechanism, it would be a pretty good one.
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I have a Ryedale...what kinds of questions would you like answered? By the way, it's very good. I sort out all of the wheats, indians, and canadians out of the copper. I look for errors in both copper and zincs. It's already paid for itself!
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Hoosier, how many early wheats get kicked out into the zinc pile? I was reading they get kicked out over there because of the non specific alloys they used to use? And how much do you put through it in a week? Do you have to watch the machine or can you set it up and go do somthing else?
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Question #1...just about every pre-1941 wheat/indian heads will go into the zinc pile.

Question #2...I run as many cents as I have a week...from 0 to $300 face.

Question #3...Yes...I have to watch it run because of jams caused by bent coins, sticky coins, and foreign objects. The chute where the coins come out gets pretty gunked up and it causes the coins to pile up a little before gravity kicks in to get the coin to basically fall into the sorter. A good thought is to look at your fingers after two or three boxes of searching...dark stinky fingers. That's what happens to the chute...slows the process down. Since I am hunting errors again...I tried selling the zincs on here because I didn't have the time...no luck...I am just taking my time...I ran 3 boxes the other day...took 10 times longer to get the paper off of the rolls than it was to run the coins through the Ryedale...and I run the coppers a second time for quality...even though I will go through each one for errors. I have about $50fv to check for errors. It's relaxing because I'm finding little things here and there...like I'm recently back up to 5 WAMS in the past month of searching.

More questions....feel free to ask!
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Do you go through the zinc pile with your eyes to pull out the old coins, I would imagine they stick out in the zincs?
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I go through both piles (buckets) to look for errors. But yes, if I was not looking for errors I'd just pour out the zinc and do a quick job of looking for the older wheats and indian heads...most of the old ones really stick out...but you never know what got dumped.
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