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Today's Modern = Tomorrow's Classics?

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 Posted 05/25/2011  05:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ram96 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My grandson thinks the 09 - 11 pennies are classics. One because they are different and two because by the time he gets to be my age ( I am 52, he is 10 ) they will be really old and they may not have pennies then. He has been saving rolls of them from from our penny sorting.
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If we go with the allegorical depictions as a guide, then ALL of the bullion coins issued since 1986 are classics, except the monstrously huge 5 oz ATB pucks... It used to be that the modern period started in 1934, when roll collecting started to take off, despite the Great Depression. Many dealers would stock and price singles back to '34 as a rule back in the 80s & 90s. Anything before that was considered a classic and priced individually.
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The dividing line is not static. For example, where was it after the first world war? Were the recently retired Barber coins classic or modern?

I do not see there ever being a consensus. My division works for me today because it happens to support how the forums are categorized and I do not collect bullion (save for the one AES in my 7070).

If and when we get new faces for our coins, I am sure many will want to move the line up.
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This division of circulation coinage into "classic" and "modern" is a purely American phenomenon, caused by the relative stability of the US dollar.

America, Canada and Switzerland are the only three countries where such a concept can even theoretically apply, because these are the only countries in which coins designed before WWII are still being used in circulation. Everywhere else has had war, inflation or some other cause of currency reform that causes a natural division between "old" and "new" coins.

Here in Australia, for instance, we don't have "classics" and "moderns" - we have "predecimals" and "decimals", with 1966 the sharp cutoff date, when the Australian pound was replaced by the Australian dollar.

I suspect the current American divisions of "classic" and "modern" will remain unchanged, until the US dollar is replaced by something else, at which time all of the dollar-series coins will probably be re-labelled "classic".
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Great perspective SAP! Always enjoy your input. Seems the Australian education system puts a higher emphasis on understanding the world around you. We can, in the US, become very insulated against world history. IMHO of course.
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Great perspective SAP! Always enjoy your input. Seems the Australian education system puts a higher emphasis on understanding the world around you. We can, in the US, become very insulated against world history. IMHO of course.

schools in the US teach history mostly in dates, but we tend to gloss over why/how and the results after.
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Would the line between modern and classic move? Or, would we simply add more lines? For example, comic books always three distinct eras. Some would say four. Those four would be Platinum, Golden, Siver, and Bronze. Those ages correspond to specific spans of years. As more years pass and add on to the comic book world, other ages get added. Now a Copper or Modern age is being bantered around. It will probably take some time for the nomenclature to stick but it will.

So, for coins, could we simple have classic, modern, and the post-modern? Maybe neo-modern? I don't know.

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I would label the Shield Cents, Statehood/Territorial/DC/AtB Quarters, Post-Westward Journey Nickels, and Presidential/Sacagawea/Native American Dollars as "Ultra-modern" coins.
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