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 Posted 05/27/2011  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another cool anomaly from Guadalajara is the 8 Reales with a backward over-date of 1821/22. Perhaps they were hoping their last obverse die of the year would hold and started cutting 1822's, and when it broke they re-worked it back into an '21? Who knows :)

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 Posted 05/27/2011  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cointagous to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing the edge photos and overdate. Wonderful toning on this 8 reales.
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 Posted 05/27/2011  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the edge artwork is fantastic, very nice! thanks!
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 Posted 06/27/2011  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just got a word from NGC: the die style of the coin in the original post was matched to 1814 and it graded XF40. The 1813 who's flower and square edge I posted was attribute 1813/2 and slabbed in a details holder due to cleaning (as I have suspected). Still pretty excited that they were able to attribute the overdate.

The rest of the submission were an 1805 8R in AU, 1777 8R FF in AU (going to send it back for a regrade, since I still believe it's an UNC), 1812 Sobrerete de Vargas in VF, 1821 chihuahua 8R in VF, and a 1765 pillar that got body bagged for repaired surfaces. I can post images if you guys are interested.
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 Posted 06/27/2011  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These would make a great addition to my 8 Reales Madness custom set, as well as a few of the Competitive sets at NGC.

001 ----- 1802MO FT ----- MEXICO ----- 8R ----- AU details (Cleaned)
002 ----- 1821CA RP ----- MEXICO CHIHUAHUA KM-111.1 ----- 8R ----- VF35
003 ----- 1812 ----- MEXICO SOMBRERETE ----- 8R ----- VF25
004 ----- 1808MO TH ----- MEXICO CHARLES IIII ----- 8R ----- AU53
005 ----- 1814GA MR ----- MEXICO GUADALAJARA ----- 8R ----- XF40
006 ----- 1813/2GA MR ----- MEXICO GUADALAJARA ----- VF details (Cleaned)
007 ----- 1777MO FF ----- MEXICO ----- 8R ----- AU55
008 ----- 1765MO MF ----- MEXICO ----- 8R ----- XF details (Repaired)

Also, this one recently came back from PCGS:

1808 Mo TH ----- Mexico Charles IIII ----- 8R ----- AU50

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Neat edge design, flower and square, instituted in Guadalajara in 1812 and only lasting just over a year into early 1813 before going back to colonial circle-and-square design.

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 Posted 06/27/2011  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where is the pictures of the pillar? I can't find that one. Nice coins.
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 Posted 06/27/2011  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the pillar.

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