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Valued Member
United States
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I know this crosses both Modern and Classic US coins and I apologize for crossing the division. Moderators, please feel free to move the thread to another forum if you so desire. I'm thinking of starting a US Small Cent Type Collection. I was going to use 2x2 pocket pages and keep the coins in 2x2 cardboard mylar flips. I'd have the first row of the pocket page contain a description and note for the coin in the row below it. I would include something like type identification, obverse/reverse description, total mintage of the type, etc. I would not be looking to fill in minor variations within a type. For example, I would have one copper Lincoln Memorial from 1959-1982, one copper Lincoln Memorial from 1982-2009, etc. I'm not looking for "small dates", etc. However, if the obverse or reverse is dramatically and noticeably different or the composition changed like in the Indian Head cent then that's fair game. Working backwards in chronology, here is what I would include in my cent type collection: 2010-Present : Lincoln Shield (as named by ebay) 2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial 1982-2008 : Zinc Lincoln Memorial 1959-1981 : Copper Lincoln Memorial 1946-1958 : Post War Copper Lincoln Wheat 1944-1945 : Brass Lincoln Wheat 1943 : Zinc Steel Copper Lincoln 1909-1942 : Original Copper Lincoln Wheat 1864-1909 : Copper Indian Head 1860-1864 : Copper-Nickel Indian Head Shield 1859 : Copper-Nickel Indian Head W/O Shield 1856-1858 : Flying Eagle Did I miss anything? It seems like Modern coins fill up the bulk of the collection (hence, I posted in the US Modern forum). Has anyone made their own US cent type collection? How have you organized it? I imagine this will keep me busy!  -- Boris |
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United States
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looks about right to me... What grades are you aiming for? That would be what might take some time. I actually just picked up my First Flying Eagles to put together the same type of collection. I haven't put them in a book though. Not sure what I am going to do with them. Right now they are sitting in 2x2's in a box. I have a lincoln set going and would need to remove some of those to really complete this small cent type set, so I was thinking of possibly getting a few duplicates going to have both sets be mutually exclusive.
The other thing you could do is start a Dansco 7070. I've been toying with that idea for a while and really think that you could start with the cents then work your way through... hmmmmm so tempting.
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1909- VDB
1909- No VDB
1910-1918 No VDB
Or are these minor variations in your mind?
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Newbismatic, Dansco albums are certainly very cool for their eye appeal and they are a great way to show off coins! I already have a 3" three ring binder so I figured I could save myself the extra $20 or so by continuing with my binder. That $20 could go to the coins! I will be aiming for VF+ for the older coins, XF+ for the not so old coins, AU+ as we get closer to the 20th century, and MS+ for the Lincolns. That could all change once I start looking at ebay for some price data. I might just be happy enogh to get what I get! Amida17, I've always thought of the VDB Lincolns as a variety of the bigger 1909-1942 set. They are an important variety but still a variety. I can be convinced otherwise. -- Boris |
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They removed the tin in 1962, so you might want to account for that composition change.
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Pillar of the Community
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What about the 74' aluminum? |
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^  In that case might as well include the 43 copper and 44 steelies! |
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^ In that case might as well include the 43 copper and 44 steelies! They would only run you about $2 million. But hey think about it no Lincoln set is really "complete" without them! JK. |
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United States
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jbuck, I didn't know that the composition changed in 1962. This is great! I'm learning something new here already and I haven't put a single coin in the collection yet.  When I add in the 1962 cut off the list looks like this. 2010-Present : Lincoln Shield (as named by ebay) 2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial 1982-2008 : Zinc Lincoln Memorial 1962-1982 : Copper and zinc Lincon 1959-1961 : Copper, zinc, and tin Lincoln Memorial 1946-1958 : Post War copper, zinc and Tin Lincoln Wheat 1944-1945 : Brass Lincoln Wheat 1943 : Zinc coated steel Copper Lincoln 1909-1942 : Copper, zinc and tin Lincoln Wheat 1864-1909 : Copper Indian Head 1860-1864 : Copper-Nickel Indian Head Shield 1859 : Copper-Nickel Indian Head W/O Shield 1856-1858 : Flying Eagle |
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Here is what I would do:
1856-1858 Flying eagle
1859 Indian
1860-1864 Indian
1864-1909 Indian
1909 VDB Lincoln
1909-1917 Lincoln
1918-1942,1944-1958 Lincoln
1943 Lincoln
1959-1982 Lincoln
1982-2008 Lincoln
2009 LP1, LP2, LP3, and LP4 Lincolns
2010- present lincoln
probably F to VF for the first 2, AU for the 3 after that, and BU for the rest
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I agree with amida17 - if you're going to go so far as to differentiate between the tin content, I'd go with the changes in the designer initials. That's at least a visible change!
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Quote:
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial Oh, I forget to mention that they also made 95% copper versions of these for the mint and proof sets! |
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United States
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Pennyman, Why did you break up the 1909-1942 date range the way you did?  -- Boris |
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I expanded my simple list into a more complicated spreadsheet. Now the composition is included. Those Lincolns will take up quite a bit of space in the collection! Here's a copy and paste from Excel. Hopefully the formatting comes out OK.
2010-Present : Lincoln Shield : 97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial LP4 : 97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial LP4 : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial LP3 : 97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial LP3 : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial LP2 : 97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial LP2 : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial LP1 : 97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper
2009 : Lincoln Bicentennial LP1 : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
1982-2008 : Zinc Lincoln Memorial : 97.5% zinc, 2.5% copper
1962-1982 : Copper-Zinc Lincoln Memorial : 95% copper, 5% zinc
1959-1961 : Copper-Tin-Zinc Lincoln Memorial : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
1946-1958 : Post War Copper-Tin-Zinc Lincoln Wheat : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
1944-1945 : Brass Lincoln Wheat : 95% copper, 5% zinc
1943 : Zinc Coated Steel Lincoln Wheat : 100% zinc plated steel
1909-1942 : Copper-Tin-Zinc Lincoln Wheat : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
1909 : Copper-Tin-Zinc VDB Lincoln Wheat : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
1864-1909 : Copper-Tin-Zinc Indian Head : 95% copper, 5% tin/zinc
1860-1864 : Copper-Nickel Indian Head Shield : 88% copper, 12% nickel
1859 : Copper-Nickel Indian Head W/O Shield : 88% copper, 12% nickel
1856-1858 : Flying Eagle : 88% copper, 12% nickel
Am I missing anything?
-- Boris
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Penny Man mentioned a split between 1917-1918, when VDB returned to the cent (on the Obverse shoulder) in 1918.
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All I can say is good luck (unless you have unlimited funding) I would pretty much take any of the coins in any condition once you need to start filling holes.
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