Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Shop CCF Members on eBay! Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Specializing in Modern Numismatics Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

What Do You Call What Happend To This Cent ?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 3,637Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
Wild Bill's Avatar
United States
744 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  12:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Wild Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Not to ask a silly question, but trying to label this 1998 LMC.

The planchet has damage before being struck, but is there a term used for this ?

What-Do-You-Call-What-Happend-To-This-Cent-?

What-Do-You-Call-What-Happend-To-This-Cent-?



Pillar of the Community
KenRingold's Avatar
United States
594 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bedrock of the Community
DVCollector's Avatar
United States
10045 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the planchet were damaged, wouldn't we see the same marks in the Lincoln Memorial?
Are gouges on the die a plausible explanation?
Pillar of the Community
Adam_E's Avatar
United States
4846 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
they're die polish marks
Edited by Adam_E
05/29/2011 1:13 pm
Pillar of the Community
KenRingold's Avatar
United States
594 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking that if it was on the planchet before being struck, wouldn't you see it in the raised areas and not in the fields? If you look at the right side of the Memorial between the two columns, you'll notice that the lines do not match up like they would if it was on the planchet. Die polish marks? That straight? Could be I suppose. Are the lines raised or embedded?
Pillar of the Community
Wild Bill's Avatar
United States
744 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wild Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the lines do not appear to be raised.....

or is it an illusion ?


What-Do-You-Call-What-Happend-To-This-Cent-?

What-Do-You-Call-What-Happend-To-This-Cent-?



Edited by Wild Bill
05/29/2011 1:57 pm
Bedrock of the Community
DVCollector's Avatar
United States
10045 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Kenringold. The die's fields would flatten planchet defects, and it would be easily seen in recessed portions of the die, ie the legends and memorial. I'm guessing these marks are incuse in the fields of the die--and raised on the coin. Just a guess.
Valued Member
drewmiller86's Avatar
United States
177 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drewmiller86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find I am looking forward to a final verdict on this one.
Pillar of the Community
KenRingold's Avatar
United States
594 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now the lines are matching! This makes it harder to believe it is from polishing to me. If the lines are not raised in the cent then they would be in the die, right? So if it was from polishing, it looks like the guy used the edge of the tool and should be fired!?
Bedrock of the Community
biokemist6's Avatar
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Feeder finger damage. They are thin steel plates that feed the planchets to the dies for striking. Occasionally, one will scrape across a die, leaving a series of parallel die gouges.

Bedrock of the Community
coop's Avatar
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Feeder finger die scrapes. They happen on the outside part of the die. Which is the fields. That makes it appear like they run through devices, but it is just damage on the out side edge of the die.
What-Do-You-Call-What-Happend-To-This-Cent-?
They are not just die polishing as they all flow at the same angle. Die polishing is irregular. Can be minor or really strong as the OP coin shows.

Pillar of the Community
Wild Bill's Avatar
United States
744 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wild Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks biokemist6 and coop, you have given me just what I was hoping to get and I'm grateful.
Pillar of the Community
Adam_E's Avatar
United States
4846 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ah, okay, thanks coop, I got them mixed up, die polish marks are irregular and Feeder Finger Damage flows at the same angle
Valued Member
oldcoach's Avatar
United States
402 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldcoach to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I totally agree with the feeder finger diagnosis plus this is the worse case I have seen.
Valued Member
closelook's Avatar
United States
131 Posts
 Posted 05/29/2011  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add closelook to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


What-Do-You-Call-What-Happend-To-This-Cent-?

What-Do-You-Call-What-Happend-To-This-Cent-?

What-Do-You-Call-What-Happend-To-This-Cent-?

Heres a few pics of a coin that was struck on a deeply scratched planchet.
Pillar of the Community
KenRingold's Avatar
United States
594 Posts
 Posted 05/30/2011  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sure like learning something new.
Edited by KenRingold
05/30/2011 01:17 am
  Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 3,637Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.32 seconds to rattle this change. Forums