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Chinese-Coin-Identification

Chinese-Coin-Identification

Hi,
Would be grateful if someone could help, the coin is 19.1 Gramms and does not stick to a magnet. Anyone any info on this ration / coin?
Maybe a value?

thanks.
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You have what is a very nice example of a Sinkiang Republic Sar {Tael} coin, from around 1912. It is a Yeoman 42a, one of the two varieties of this coin. You also have a fairly valuable coin, at retail, they can sell for around $50-70 USD. NICE!

And, to the CCF community.
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06/01/2011 10:56 am
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 Posted 06/01/2011  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it fake? (you have to ask such questions with Chinese coins)

Is the photo black and white or is it really that colour?
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Thanks everyone, wont be able to retire just yet!
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Quote:
Would be grateful if someone could help, the coin is 19.1 Gramms and does not stick to a magnet


The coin seems much too light.

The same coin at this Chinese website weighs 37.5 grams: http://item.eachnet.com/prd/1283903...20_prd.html#

A "two stripe" version of the coin at this Chinese website weighs 33.9 grams: http://paimai.artxun.com/qianbi-641905.html

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Yeah, one tael is around 38 grams, and western Chinese tael coins, like manymore, is around 37.2 grams. Also, the color does not look silver - a bit too gray.
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The details of the coin is not right and there is no way this looks like genuine to me. Sinkiang coins are known to be not well struck. If this is a genuine Sinkiang 1 tael coin, it should be worth more than 500USD. Chinese coins are ridiciously hot this year.
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Chinese-Coin-Identification

Chinese-Coin-Identification

Thanks everyone for all the info, had the camera still set to B & W so I uploaded some new pictures.

Guess the weight is wrong so, all the coins you all have posted are slightly different, could this be half a tael? at 19.1 grams?


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Guess the weight is wrong so, all the coins you all have posted are slightly different, could this be half a tael? at 19.1 grams?


The inscription on the coin states "one tael" (一两).

Sorry, but there is no possibility the coin is authentic.

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It looks like the same metal the fake Trade dollars are made of. Definately not silver. I am voting for fake too.
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There were two coinage systems in China - the silver dollar and the Tael system. Tael in a measure of weight that originated in Vietnam and its use spread to Malaya and China. the tael was of different weight in various parts of China, ranging from 26.7 grams to 51.2 grams, while the Shangai Tael weighed 37.5 grams. Some taels may weigh 37.65 grams, with some tolerance limits. In 1930, there was a monetary reform to standardize and 30.25 grams was recommended as the "market-tael" and some taels weigh 30.24 grams which is within the tolerance limit. However, subsequently, many mints produced taels that weighed only 29.96-29.98 grams and some came in at 28.82 grams and in 1933, the tael system in coinage was abolished and by 1935 most of them were recycled. Hence taels are scarce to rare and encouraged countefeiting using pressure casting technology but these can be easily recognized, as (thick) lines tend to appear in the fields and poor rims or poor denticles which are part of the rim, or the rim may have extra long denticles and denticles in other part are drastically reduced to form dots, or there may be too many dots or grainy dots in the fields or near the rim and some lines of the original design may get extended. Many of these counterfeits are made of an alloy that looks like silver and does not stick to a magnet. This coin, at about 44mm is grossly below the acceptable weight.
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Inscription of the outer circle: First year of Republic of China. Very very rare coin, this one is likely to be a copy. Inner cirle is the denomination, one tael.
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19.1 grams pity the weight is wrong!
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