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New To Collecting, Question About A 1983-P Jefferson Nickel

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 Posted 06/03/2011  12:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nkling83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

New to collecting, new to the boards. I recently came across a 1983-P Jefferson nickel with some discoloring and I'm wondering what it could be. At first, I thought the coin was maybe tarnished, but it appears to be copper. Could this have been an error when the coin was produced? I've attached a photo for reference (please note: the coloration of the coin is slightly darker in the photo than in person). I appreciate the help!

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 Posted 06/03/2011  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nkling83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, I may have gotten an answer on another site. Could this be the explanation?

"This is a 1985-P Jefferson nickel that was struck on an Improperly Annealed Planchet. What happens is, the mint places it's planchets inside an oven before they are stuck. But, they use the same ovens for different types of coins. When they anneal cent planchets, some of the copper molecules come off and remain in the oven. Then, another type of planchet is placed in the oven and those particles settle on it and are cooked onto it. That results in a thin copper layer on the planchet. The coin is then struck. Many times, you see coins with this type of error but the coating is somewhat uneven...giving you "blotches" of copper color. In this case, the coin was almost completely covered giving it a nearly uniform copper appearance"
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Unfortunately, the information that you gleaned from another site is grossly inaccurate. In 1982, the US Mint switched the composition of cent planchets from 95% copper to copper-plated zinc. These new planchets are soft enough that they do not require annealing so there is zero chance of any copper contamination transferred from the cents to other coins. It is also worth noting that the copper only represents 2.5% of the coin so there is very little copper to contaminate anything even if they were annealed.

The process described is also inaccurate, copper dust is not involved at all in improperly annealed planchets. A combination of high heat and/or high oxygen levels in the annealing oven will cause copper and nickel atoms to migrate and separate into relatively pure layers. Any surface copper on an improperly annealed planchet came from the coin itself, not any outside influence.

Improperly annealed planchets are uncommon and the vast majority of coins purported to be improperly annealed are actually affected by environmental damage. I suspect that is the case for your coin.
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I appreciate the response! Very informative. My apologies for being somewhat ignorant to the process. I'm new to coin collecting, thus have very limited knowledge. I joined this forum in hopes of learning through discussion with other, more educated collectors. Thanks again!
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- you've come to the right place!

Asking questions is the only way to learn and biokemist6 is one of the best when it comes to errors!
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