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1858 Sl Flying Eagle

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 Posted 06/05/2011  11:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Images are scans. Crappy as usual.
Red spot looks like a drop of paint or ink.
It is on the surface of the coin. Comparing it with many other
photos the details are finer than EF40. That's all I can say.
Thanks.

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums...858SLobv.jpg

http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums...858SLrev.jpg
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 Posted 06/06/2011  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say EF40 maybe EF45. It has a great strike on the tail feathers but wear on breast, wings and leg.
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Tough one I guess. Kind of in between as I agree with you
with the wear on the breast, drumstick and talons. Tail feathers were what I noticed about the diff. between 40 and 45
All of the 45's I looked at also had some rub on the breast
and legs. In hand slightly more detail on the top of the left wing. Closer to the 45 than the 40. But maybe an overall 40
considering the spot on the coin and the rev. etc. I'll see what the concensus says :) Maybe go EF-42.5 :)
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I dont' know if this helps, but here are two of my FEs that have been graded. First one is an 1858 SL graded EF40 by NGC. In reality, it's probably closer to EF45.
1858-Sl-Flying-Eagle

This is an 1857 FE graded EF45 by PCGS
1858-Sl-Flying-Eagle

You can compare these pics to yours, it may help more definitively set the grade.
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Notice how the EF40 graded FE has a much stronger strike on the tail feathers then the one graded EF45, so that is not alone definitive. After looking at yours and comparing the pictures, I believe a TPG would give this an EF40 at best as there is substantial wear on the breast, and it may be the scan, but the strike looks a little flat.
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Hey thanks. Those pics. helped a lot.
Good pics. also. Makes it much easier to compare to mine
with it in hand. I can see the differences. I agree with you now on the EF40. The strike on mine is fine. The scans I guess do not help. Also mine is dead on with the normal CN coloring.
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DavidZerbato--
Agreed on your first FE; that's an easy XF45 to my eyes.
Do the fields have a lot of marks--and did that factor into their grade?
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I bought One just like this a few weeks ago and am scared I over payed. It's an NNC xf 40, Mt rev. has much more detail on the stalks and wheat, but the obverse is its twin,I paid 65 bucks did I over pay? I still love the coin.
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I am not familiar with that grading co. but if
it is indeed an EF40 coin then you did pretty good I think.
The SL carries a little bit more of a premium in that grade than the large lettering, but only about 10 bucks or so.
I do not know the greysheet on these coins but checked
numismedia real quick and they showed $168.00 for the SL
and $150.00 for the LL @ EF-40
They seem to be a tad high though on some coins
if not most.
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I just love looking at FEs. When they have feather detail like these they are sweet.
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