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Anyone Have A New Idea To Keep Moisture Out Of Home Safe

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Just thought I would ask if anyone knows of any new products or ideas to help keep moisture out of a home safe.

Were having a very hot summer here in Florida panhandle.
My safe is not in a completely climate controlled area.

Any ideas about what to use or not use would be welcome.

I have used a couple different products .. would like something better.
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I lived in Florida for over 20 years...

I can tell you there is really nothing that is going to completely help unless you move the safe into a climate controlled area.

I had a large gun safe in my garage (not climate controlled) and after countless desiccants, I still had rust....I eventually just kept everything dripping with oil.

With coins obviously you can't do that, but what I did was inside my large safe I had a small metal box that I put some coins in with about 2 to 3 small desiccant packs. This way they have less moisture to obsurb with such a smaller area.

Not sure what size safe you have....
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 Posted 06/13/2011  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Awesome Wally to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By desiccant I assume you mean silica gel? I know at Marine Supply stores you can get it in industrial size.
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Ziploc bags and desicant.
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I live in AZ A (dry Heat) But I do use silica-gel in all my storage boxes for 2x2 s also placed around the front of my safe on each shelf. As a cost savings, I place them in the microwave for 2 to 5 seconds, depending on how many I do, usually 5 to 10, this dries them out and make them re usable. I have been doing this for the past 4 years. We do get very humid here, starting the end of June to the end of August. Hope this helps you.
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They make a dehumidifier for gunsafes...should work for coins too.
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Yep, surely mean silica-gel.

Again, I think the best idea is to move the safe inside if manageable.
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Sort of the same stuff I have been doing ..

I don't know anything about the gun safe dehumidifier ... anyone have any experience with them.

I may have to check out the the marine stores for more of the silica-gel ...

It is a medium size gun safe .. and I am thinking of buying another.
For the guns I clean and oil them and put a thin coat of vasoline on them
them put them in gun socks ( they help prevent rust).

The coin are in Dansco albums, some with slip covers and ziplock bags.
Some coins are stored in small plastic tubs

I am thinking of putting more insulation into the garage and maybe putting in a dehumidifier
for the whole garage.
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I can tell you there is really nothing that is going to completely help unless you move the safe into a climate controlled area.
I have to agree with this. Silica gel packs are no match for the southeastern humidity.

Keep in mind that any albums or other paper based containers that you keep your coins in are also absorbing the humidity. What goes in will come out when the temperature drops.


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The coin are in Dansco albums, some with slip covers and ziplock bags.
Some coins are stored in small plastic tubs
The Ziploc bags will help, but I still feel you should move them into a climate controlled area.
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 Posted 06/14/2011  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billwright to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You need to use Silica Gel to keep moisture out of your safe. And I'd highly recommend the Dry-Packs Indicating Silica Gel 40 Gram Aluminum Canister. These work perfect in small safes. Also they are moisture indicating so you can SEE when they have been fully absorbed (no guessing like with standard silica gel packets). And these canisters are reusable, I put 6 of them in my oven at a time and heat at 260 degrees F for 2-3 hours and it dries them out nicely to reuse.

Well worth your money! Here is direct link: http://www.silicagelpackets.com/dry...anister.html
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Remember that those gel packs of any kind have a limit as to what they can absorb. Using them is OK but if ignored over a period of time, they become not only useless, but could also start to emit moisture containing other substances. Inside a safe with no air that moisture becomes stagnet and sits on your coins more so than leaving them on a kitchen table. People rely on those gel packs a little to much and forget them eventually creating a high humidity invironment that doesn't change.
Any safe is good and bad for so many reasons. Every time you open one, you change the air inside and add any new moisture from outside. During a fire a safe may not burn but will get hot. Any plastic inside will melt and/or give off fumes that will not help the coins at all. There are air conditioned safes available but remember the A/C system is electrical and will possibly run a real lot or most of the time so the electric bill is something to consider. And on those if the A/C unit should fail, you may not notice it for a long time.
I'm in Illinois and our outside humidity is at times like the worst anywhere. Example is today the humidity outside is 86%. Any coins I have not in a safe deposit box are in my basement and with a really good dehumidifier, my hygrometer usually shows about 28% to 32%. Even on days like today. And of course all Albums are in Zip Lock bags just in case.
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Desiccators such as silica gel are great if they are maintained properly. However , I follow the Ziplock bag group for primary protection in a safe for more than a few days. The heavy duty freezer type bags are thicker and have a better zipper. If you want more, buy the Ziplock vacuum bags, pump the air out, seal the hole and zipper with a piece of tape, and you are good for years or decades.

Do not store guns or ammo, or anything with oils/grease/cleaning fluid treated surface in a safe with coins, even with a desiccator, as they only absorb water, not other chemicals.

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Get one of those small fire and water proof boxes and put silica gel packs in there along with your coins, then put that box into your safe. That will also provide some fire protection. You can get them at Walmart for about $30-40 IIRC.

I've had good luck with a Golden Rod dehumidifier too. Used one for over 10 years and no rust on my guns.
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best bet is get a dehumidifier for your house. Cost around $150 and just put it in the room with the safe.
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best bet is get a dehumidifier for your house. Cost around $150 and just put it in the room with the safe.

Absolutely true. Mine is in my basement near a floor drain. The bucket that collects water has a hose that runs to that floor drain and it really pumps out the humidity.
At one time I tried a pile of those gel packs in the basement. After several days the hygrometer read 45% to 50%. Put the dehumidifier back on and it dropped to 28% to 32% in one day.
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I agree. You will never keep a basement dry without a dehumidifier. It has been almost twenty years since I lived in a house with a basement, but when we did, we always had a dehumidifier. I remember how bad it got down there when it broke.
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