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Update - Bitcoin: Crashes To .01 Penny

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 Posted 06/20/2011  7:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is exactly why I never cared for Bitcoins.

The most popular exchange of Bitcoin online currency, Mt. Gox, on Sunday admitted it had been hacked. It made the announcement after the price of Bitcoins dropped from $17 to nearly zero in a matter of minutes. The sell off happened after a Mt. Gox account with a large amount of Bitcoins was hacked, and the hacker sold all Bitcoins in that account.

Bitcoins, an unregulated peer-to-peer currency, has been in the news a lot lately, with two Senators suggesting it would lead to illegal online drug purchases. It also raised eyebrows when a hacker stole more than $500,000 in Bitcoins from an unsuspecting trader.

Source: http://venturebeat.com/2011/06/19/p...p-to-pennies
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 Posted 06/20/2011  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlmostCollectible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same here. Sucks for the people who bought into the bitcoin fad. But buying funny money to protect yourself from fiat money, just doesn't make sense to me.
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 Posted 06/20/2011  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who in the world did not see that coming?
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06/20/2011 7:24 pm
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 Posted 06/20/2011  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You called it AC....
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 Posted 06/20/2011  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this bitcoin thing is confusing.........its not even real money right?
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 Posted 06/21/2011  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bitcoins are bought with real money. They are still in their infancy, and they do have a purpose.

I don't use 'em, though. Yet.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Murazor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bitcoins as such did not crash. It was 'only' an attack on a big trading site. The value of 1BTC was about $12 that time on working marketplaces.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a feeling that a lot of the cash used to buy Bitcoins is drug money being laundered. I read about SilkRoad, a website that is a Craig's List for illegal drugs including heroin, ecstasy, cocaine, LSD, and just about any black market drugs you could want. Most of the transactions for illegal drugs on SilkRoad were paid for with Bitcoins. They could hide and have their location and identity shuffled using ghost technology from a web system called TOR. I say good riddance to this currency. A teenager who is computer savvy could purchase illegal and dangerous drugs using Bitcoins and that is just not satisfactory in any way. We need more kids collecting coins and stamps and less kids getting high.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chadwick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


With that said. I was telling some of my co-workers the other day what a shame it was that I didn't buy $50 worth a year ago to sell then. I would have retired.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that trojan connected through a ftp to give the hacker access to the bitcoin money (which should be very traceable), not exactly how I would have done it but there are parts of this trojan that was pretty thought out and goes in and looks for the wallet on the computer. If you are going to have some of this type of currency you need to make sure you have a Mac because chances are there will not be a hack for the Mac like this and you can hear about it and cash them in before one is ever developed if you wish
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 Posted 06/21/2011  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is where the discussion of trading your freedoms for more security comes into play. I've worked in IT my whole career with a few jaunts to engineering aside. I get annoyed that everyone everywhere should know how and why I spend my money. I spent much of my career with my name and salaries as part of the public record as required by public trading rules and now that I'm retired and want to dabble in this and that (legal practices) I need to account for every penny back to the public? It makes want to just scream rude things. Yes I keep gold and silver. I also produce energy I don't claim on my income tax. I have a huge attitude about it too as it relates to reporting... as in "go away or shoot me". The public gets taxes from my fiat currency investments... that is enough.

If I want to dabble in a DEFLATIONARY currency as part of a look into an interesting social experiment, then why paint me with the same brush as a drug dealer or buyer? People with cash also buy drugs. Every day. Go down to the local courthouse and sit through a days worth of arraignments - "Suspect was arrested with 500 dollars in small bills in his possession" . In the meantime, I can trade Bitcoins for things like ASE's. That makes it real enough that's it's not play money or a game. I can get a college nerd to "code me up" several thousand lines of PHP (which I hate doing) and pay with Bitcoins. So what if he spends it on something none of us like? He could do the same with cash.

While I pointedly disapprove of any illicit drugs, I'm not naive enough to think that eliminating a semi-anonymous (it can be traced if someone with resources wanted to using statistical analysis) payment system is for the greater good. You know what made the internet such a smash hit? It sure wasn't Google - it was access to adult oriented material previously difficult to get to. There are hundreds of studies on this. Yes, our beloved electronic communication migrated from the BBS era to a fantastic information resource like coin community funded by the appetite for .. well you know. It just happened that social acceptance for this particular media was tipping into the favourable category at that point in time... timing is everything. Imagine if the internet had been banned because of it's POTENTIAL content.

And now, what you saw with that report on Silk Road, that's just a reflection of the real world being mirrored into the internet. This is going to happen more and more as a natural evolution that I believe cannot be controlled. It's like trying to stop people from writing books, while it's been tried many, many times under many political arrangements it's never worked.

In any case, I'm against any effort to shut down Bitcoin. I think that's just a knee jerk reaction from people wanting to stop what they can't directly control.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I think that's just a knee jerk reaction from people wanting to stop what they can't directly control.


We need a "hammer hitting a nail on the Head" Smiley thingy.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add studio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's been quite a few links on cryptome.org about bitcoins (site is currently down for some reason) otherwise I'd throw the links up but the whole nature of bitcoin (much like TOR which was mentioned earlier) screams interesting shadow world that has legitimate--as well as--nefarious uses.

Perhaps the very nature of coin generation is what makes folks squint at it. And I really agree with ianmprice on this because when I first heard of this I thought two things: Sure, I could spend months generating coins via dedicated GPU harvesters but do I really want to? Alternatively, do I really want to trade silver for a digital currency that doesn't really have a consistent market? etc. etc. etc.

But on an aside:


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I have a huge attitude about it too as it relates to reporting... as in "go away or shoot me".


That's very similar to something my grandfather told tax inspectors back in the '30s when they wanted to itemize his possessions for tax purposes although it went something like this: "Sure, you can come in but they'll have to be carrying you out."
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