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Two-Feather 1916 Buffalo Nickel (And Other Varieties)

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While trying to put together my super-cheap, super-ugly Buffalo set, I came across this one and thought it needed its own thread. Just after I acid-dated it, I noticed the missing feather. It's just an abraded die, but so is the 3-legged. Is there much interest out there for this variety?

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Yes, I know I should know better, but I was having too much fun. I will stop with the fun, I promise. To avoid this sort of mistake in the future, is there a reference I should be looking at for diagnostics on Buffalo varieties, particularly those would be helpful on dateless or partial date coins? Other than Type I and the '16 doubled die, I don't know how to spot them with no date.
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 Posted 06/24/2011  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not really a mistake unless the date was visible before you added the acid. There are several different dates of two feather nickels so without the date it would be nothing special.
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Is there much interest out there for this variety?

I would assume so, several of them are listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide.

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Other than Type I and the '16 doubled die, I don't know how to spot them with no date.

Don't feel bad about Nic-A-Dating, those are pretty much the only identifiable dateless Buffalos. IMO, a Nic-A-Date Buffalo is still better than a completely dateless one.
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 Posted 06/24/2011  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note to self: get this Cherrypicker's Guide everyone is talking about.


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Don't feel bad about Nic-A-Dating, those are pretty much the only identifiable dateless Buffalos. IMO, a Nic-A-Date Buffalo is still better than a completely dateless one.

I agree, which is why I'm doing it (with the caveat that a clean dateless is better for non-collecting purposes like buttons or slot machines). I'm just worried that I might do it on a rare variety like a 1918/7 without knowing that it has some sort of identifying characteristic without a date.
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Agreed, many 2 feather dates. No harm done here.
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There is an identifying die crack on the 18/7 so it can be identified even if dateless.
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Do you know of a reference picture for the die crack? I wasn't able to find a good picture, just descriptions.
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The die crack on the Indian's cheek on a 1918/7-D Buffalo nickel is only present on later die stages when the die became distressed. It is not always present to indicate a dateless Buffalo nickel is the rare 1918/7-D. The reason there are ample supplies of the 1918/7-D 5c Buffalo is it was a long and complete die run of over 250,000 coins being struck. Even About-Good examples can be attributed with the inner loops of the "8", the mintmark and cheek die crack when present. I cherrypicked an AG 1918/7-D once. I also picked off a 3-Legged Buffalo grading VF...now for the hat-trick I'm looking to cherrypick a 1916/1916!

Check out the 3 images below showing the die crack. The third and last images has no die crack as this coin came from an early die stage. Note the distress on the two coins that show the die crack

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No Die Crack present on this example.
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Those are awesome pictures; they're exactly what I need. Well, exactly what I need is a dateless buffalo with that crack, but the expertise is appreciated nonetheless!
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Also, Captain your acid treated 1916 2-Feathers looks like it is also a "No F". If there was a "F" present the acid should have brought it out.

In addition to The CherryPickers' Guide, you should also purchase a copy of Ron Pope's book " Buffalo nickels - The Abraded Die Varieties". You can't order it on Amazon. *** Email Removed by Staff ***. Tell him the Danester sent you. He prints them on demand. The price is $16.50 + $3 shipping.

Read the book review at coinbooks.org - it is now in its 12th print Edition with improve paper quality. I've paid for mine many times over with the varieties I was able to "pick-off".
http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v10n29a04.html

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