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I have never had or really seen and off center error coin I was looking though these dimes and I noticed they where off I didnt know if they where errors or not.

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i really dont think this is I just think its weird how close the LIBERTY is to the edge

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They are both misaligned dies (MAD) but only slightly, making them more of a novelty piece than worth a premium.
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Agreed....If part of the lettering or date was affected (or any other raised part of the coin) then it would be worth a little bit to alot depending upon how much is affected...
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Have you checked these two for rotated die?
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whats the best way to check. I can seem to do it but flipping my hands shake to much.

This are like all coins I find and want to collect I never plan on selling them
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You can use a 2x2 staple type coin flip. Draw a straight line across the flip, half way over horizontally and then half way over vertically. Put the coin in question into the flip and hold the flip closed with your fingers, then flip it and see if it's rotated or not. I hope this makes sense,i had trouble putting it into words. I made one and it works fine for me. You can also buy a gauge made just for this kinda thing.
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perfect wording. It will have to wait till I get off work.
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they might be a little rotated but not much if anything.
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Would these two examples that are shown be more of a collar
issue then a MAD ?
Is it MAD or can it be MADS
Both obv. and rev. seem misaligned.
Also the term broadstruck comes to mind. Not on these
two but I have found a few dimes with off center strikes
that were in EF/AU condition but with no reeding whatsoever.
I always referred to these as broadstruck. I forget myself sometimes with the terms and examples. MAD or MADS, broadstruck, off center strike, struck out of collar etc.
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I guess I will have to google to figure all that out.^^^^
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Would these two examples that are shown be more of a collar
issue then a MAD ?

No


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Is it MAD or can it be MADS
Both obv. and rev. seem misaligned.

Either the hammer die, or the anvil, or both may be misalligned. The anvil die though is constrained within the collar so it can not be very far out of alignment. The hammer die on the other hand can be so far out of alignment that the edge of the die can be near the center of the coin. While I have never seen a coin with that much misalignment coins exist showing die clash marks that show that much misalignment. And yes it is possible to have coins with both dies misaligned.


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Also the term broadstruck comes to mind. Not on these
two but I have found a few dimes with off center strikes
that were in EF/AU condition but with no reeding whatsoever.

Off-center coins typically do not show reeding.

Broadstruck coins occur when the collar jams and retracts with the anvil die. Typically after a coin is struck the anvil die rise up and pushes the coin out of the collar. If the collar then jams when the anvil die retracts it pulls the collar down with it and the face of the anvil die remains flush with the top surface of the collar. This means the next planchet is not surrounded and restrained by the collar When it is struck it can expand outward to a larger than normal diameter. Also since the collar is missing no reeded edge is formed. If the planchet is perfectly centered on the dies you get what is called a centered broad strike. If the planchet is off to one side, but the entire design is still visible on the coin, then is is called an uncentered broadstrike. If it is off to one side and part of the design is missing, it is an off-center strike.

Off-center strikes are a little odd because they can occur whether the collar is properly in place or not. If the collar is jammed down the off-center will typically be flat. If the collar is in it's normal position the Off-center may show a slight bend where the struck portion is forced down inside the collar, and there may be traces of reeding at either edge of the struck portion. There may also be traces of reeding showing on the anvil side of the coin along the arc of the struck portion. (This comes from the metal being forced down into the collar and up against it.)
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