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1961 Franklin Half Dollar With Smooth Edge

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 Posted 06/27/2011  1:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ChickB to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good Afternoon:
I have been reviewing and organizing and trying to value an older family coin collection. In it I found a 1961 Franklin half dollar with a completely Smooth (not worn) and slightly Raised Rimmed Edge. All other Franklins have reeded edges. I have been unable to find any information or mention of this type of edge on this coin. Any ideas, input, or direction that anyone can provide would be appreciated.
Thanks, ChickB
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 Posted 06/27/2011  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KisNap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never seen one in this denomination, but sounds like a Dryer Coin. With a picture we'd be able to tell you a lot more.
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 Posted 06/27/2011  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe a type 2 planchet with the upset process in place:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...okemist6.jpg
Maybe it is a spooned coin that someone was making a ring out of?
Without images if makes it real hard to tell for sure what you have?
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 Posted 06/27/2011  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could have seen use at a casino - I see a lot of Kennedy halves with the reeding worn off from use in slot machines. They look really chewed up.
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 Posted 06/27/2011  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChickB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the answers. Nothing too much different from any other Franklin, other than the edge. It is not beat up. I will see if I can get a couple photos of it and post them tomorrow.
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 Posted 06/28/2011  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChickB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In reference to original post and suggestions for photographs, three Photos of the coin and attached.

Thanks for any assistance.

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 Posted 06/28/2011  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might have been spooned.
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 Posted 06/29/2011  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still worth melt or you can continue to make a silver ring out of it?
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 Posted 06/29/2011  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks spooned to me with the mushrooming rim. By the way, nice rings coop.
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 Posted 06/30/2011  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are not mine. I save images for the educational library. I was going to buy one of the rings like the ones in the first image and didn't. Then some one comented on how the devices on rings like these wear off quickly. So I gave up the idea. (Always nice to get more advice before buying one.) But this coin would be turned into a coin like the second set of images.
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 Posted 06/30/2011  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why would the devices on the ring wear off any faster than the devices wear off on the coins? I would think that what would actually happen is the abrasion would "clean" the coin and greatly reduce the contrast between the devices and the fields and they would loose that nice two tone effect. or if you work with your hands a lot the part of the ring on the inside of the hand might wear smooth from constantly being rubbed against your tools or the other things you're handling.
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On coins the rim prevents the devices near the rim to wear slower. If the rim is missing/worn/removed then the devices will wear off quicker. If you could simulate the rim on both edges of the rim, the would slow wear down on the ring. I would prefer the date to show on the ring, but my birth year doesn't show in that area of the ring on the helf dollar. 8(
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 Posted 06/30/2011  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChickB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information, and the education. I really like your idea of the "edcuational library". The pictures helped me a lot to understand. I guess I am thinking, 1. someone has to have a lot of talent and time to do all that with a spoon, and 2. I wonder also how people find the time to sit and do that to a coin with a spoon. I learn something new every day. Thanks again.
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I think you need additional tools to turn it into a ring.

Back in "the day" kids used to spoon pennies to make them smaller so they pass for dimes in vending machines and save 9 cents on a Coke. I also see a spooned dime now and then when I'm searching them. I have no idea why somebody would do it to a dime other than boredom.
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Here is a crude site showing how it can be done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfwi...ture=related
Seems like he was hurrying to much to me. LOL
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I was going to buy one of the rings like the ones in the first image and didn't. Then some one comented on how the devices on rings like these wear off quickly. So I gave up the idea. (Always nice to get more advice before buying one.) But this coin would be turned into a coin like the second set of images.


That sounds like they didn't treat the ring after working it. You have to soften the metal before you work and harden it again after. I hope to be making rings like these in the next few months. I'll let you know how they come out and how they last.
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