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Critique Lukky - Part 1

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 Posted 07/10/2011  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I ended up realizing that I had my camera set to the wrong setting. So let me repost some pictures here. First are old settings (same as last one except shutter speed is down to 1/100).

Lens closer to coin
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Lens further from coin
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New camera settings
F5.6
ISO 100 or 200 (will edit once I update picturese)
Shutter 1/100
Distance is a tad further from coin (will measure in a second

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All of these above pictures are unedited. I did not sharpen any because at this point I think we're trying to correct sharpness with this lens.

Here are the last two sharpened once in my editing software
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 Posted 07/10/2011  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbismatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The last ones I think have potential, but you've over exposed the photo a tad. Make your shutter speed a bit quicker by a few stops. You don't want to "wash out" any of the details on the coin. I also still feel like you need to back the lens up a little bit since you aren't quite focusing.

Let me know if you want me to remove this photo, but here is an example. (I know I have a different lens, but my focal length is 60mm, so very close)

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Do you see how sharp all of the details are? Granted this coin isn't nearly as nice as yours, you can see all of the details, as well as the color. This is right out of the camera, just cropped and a white balance adjustment. No sharpening or anything.

We'll talk about lighting later, but being further away should give you better opportunities with lighting!

So for the time being, really focus on (pun intended) getting your focus and exposure down! Let's see some more attempts!
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 Posted 07/11/2011  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So no matter what I try I can't get the sharpness any better. I really don't think how close/far the lens is seems to be making a difference at all. What/where should I go?
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 Posted 07/11/2011  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbismatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I wouldn't give up so quickly.

The photos on the top of this page looks like they are in a little bit better focus/ exposure. Whatever distance you were away from the coin, get there again. You're focus is right there.

Then work on exposure. The photos at the top of the page are slightly under exposed. Get that setup up and running again, then play with your shutter speeds. Stop down to f/8 and your ISO around 200. Making sure you're using a tripod, now move that exposure around slightly to really hone in on the right spot.
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 Posted 07/11/2011  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
*EDIT THIS LINE* Also not that this is no longer the 1939-S... I'm not deleting this post because it did turn out a tad nicer.

Newb, going to do what you said, but I went through all the shots I took and this one I overlooked. It's a tad better, still had to sharpen once in Photoscape though.

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 Posted 07/11/2011  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbismatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one looks a lot better. Now your coin "seems" darker because your light source is very low, or close to the same height as the coin. Get your light source up higher and closer to your lens, and now you will have a nice bright coin.
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 Posted 07/13/2011  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back to the 39-s! I've got some sharper pictures. The reverse is focusing much better for me so it's probably operator error on the obverse.

1/125 F8 ISO 400
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1/100 F9 ISO 400
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1/100 F8 ISO 400
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1/125 F8 ISO 400 (same as first picture)
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 Posted 07/13/2011  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbismatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So you're showing a TON of improvement on your exposures and your grasp on photographing coins.

I think what it's coming down to is, what format are you shooting in? jpg? RAW?

Essentially your digital zoom (the crop you perform) is what is making the coins look soft and needing to be sharpened. If you're going to make such a serious crop, I'm thinking (if you aren't already) shoot in the highest quality that your camera will let you... either RAW or jpg FINE. That will ease some of your noisiness come crop time.

I'm shooting with a 60mm micro lens (Thats Macro in Nikon language), and can essentially fill my field of view with the coin. I would continue to experiment with the setup that you have, to find the BEST combination of settings. Once you find something that works, then I would say it is time to think about upgrading to another lens that allows you to really fill the sensor with the image.
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 Posted 07/14/2011  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would tend to agree with you that it's the lens, but convincing my wife I need a $300 lens to shoot coins is a different story. The only other lens I have is a 75-300mm. I'm doubting that would make any difference, but I could give it a try.

I'm pretty sure the camera is shooting at it's highest quality, but I forget how to check. I'll go get the instruction manual and take a look.
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 Posted 07/14/2011  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wasn't shooting in RAW, but I don't know what I was shooting exactly. I took some pictures in RAW format, but I don't know how to edit them now. I'm attempting to find a program that will let me edit.
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 Posted 07/14/2011  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hambone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I'm not mistaken GIMP edits raw images. BTW, great pics.
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 Posted 07/15/2011  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If I'm not mistaken GIMP edits raw images. BTW, great pics.


http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/

There's a plugin of UFRaw for Gimp.
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