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I was thinking about these type of coins. They arent die varieties and neither are they errors. They should be in its own category. I know they are mistakes but not a imperfect coin in any way. Does anyone else think this? The only reason I say this is because I dont think they belong in the error category. If the experts come up with a certain type of name for this then there are many others that would fit in the category like the 1939 Jefferson 38/40 reverse and so on. The large S on some of the Jeffersons and cents should also go in the same category with the CAMs WAMs and so and forth.
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These ARE varieties. The reason being, not all the coins struck that year were struck with the variety. There are a number of "varieties" for any given year from any of the three mints. Hence the name, VARIETIES.
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Seal it doesn't make any sense for them to be considered die varieties when die varieties are the doubling that appears in the numbers, letters, MM, etc..... I just think personally these type of coins should have its own category. When someone talks about die varieties they are talking about Doubled dies or trail dies. Die varieties are from the die itself. These type of coins I'm talking about arent from the die itself but different designs.
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07/07/2011 11:47 am
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The Wide AM was a different die altogether from the Close AM. So since there were more than one particular die type there was a variety. Same with the others you mention like the Jefferson nickels and the RDV's. All the term "variety" is implying is that there were more than just one. What makes the 1955 LWC DDO any different than a 1999 WAM? They both have attributes that were differnt than the mast majority of other cents minted that year. |
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I guess I just think they should have a different name altogether and put in its own category.
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I was wondering if the coins you say go under the die varieties category then that means Cuds are more of a die variety than an error due to many of the same Cuds? |
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Quote:then that means Cuds are more of a die variety than an error due to many of the same cuds No, a Cud is still an error. It was not on the die when it was hung in the press, the die break occurred at some point during production. Cuds are also not static either, meaning that the Cud keeps progressing and growing larger with successive strikes. |
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Quote:A Close AM 1992 cent is actually an error. It's a mule. An unintended design coupled with another design That was taken from an explanation by coppercoins a few months ago.Not saying I agree,but there is one expert opinion anyway. |
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That was taken from an explanation by coppercoins a few months ago.Not saying I agree,but there is one expert opinion anyway. And Ken Potter refers to them as varieties. |
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Geepers ... this discussion again?  Refer to the link Scooby posted ... this horse has been beat to death already. The collecting community will never agree on what is an error and what is a variety ... so be it and to each their own for their own collecting joy. I'm going back to nickel roll searching.  David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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I always considered the "transitional" varieties. But then again I am nobody...  |
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Transitional is close but that usually applies
to a one year type error. The wams are described as just
a type 2 rev. If there are different types of reverses that were intentionally designed to be used over a coins minting life then that is that. The wams/cams were in fact an error
that happened but not an error in the minting process. A normal die that was used unintentionally on the wrong dated coin. That's about it. A wam/cam is a die variety. The result
of an in house mint error made by an employee. Error meaning mistake in this case not a minting error.
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I didnt realize this was discussed before so lets end this post. So in the long run they are a variety but not a die variety then. But not an error but a mistake.
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What's in a name? If you collect these things-great. If you have some, even greater.  Otherwise  Edited by numismo
07/08/2011 09:45 am
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