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Hi- I found this coin metal detecting a few months ago, and I am still unable to identify it.i just got this computer, and I learning the web surfing. I found this website, and joined up. My coin I think is either brass or bronze. I am not sure which it is.i am new to metal detecting as well. It has on the back of the coin:a line all around it like a shield. inside this shield outline is a castle and it looks like a tower on each side of it. underneath it,it has a lion.the lion is standing n 3 paws, the 4th paw is raised up. like a dog show would do.it's tail is above his body,and the tip of his tail I spointed.the coin is round,the size is a bit bigger than an american quarter.but smaller than an american half dollar.i do not have a ruler for exact size.i compared it to these 2 coins.it is smooth all over,on both sides.the front,there is no markings to be read,or date.it looks like a few odd word symbols,my friends say a foriegn letters.but,i can not tell.it not readable like the back for some reason.or if it is a foriegn language,you may tell the markings are words and not scratched signs.the back side is very readable,the shield/castle/2 towers/lion.
Can anyone tell me what this coin is,and where it orignate? I know it is not a native coin here.it was deep,i found it about 18"inches deep.i really would like to get an idea of what it is,and where it from.it's really got me stumped,and I am so curious on it!.i hope someone can help me figure this out.if someone knows what this is ,can you please send me a pic of this coin?so I may compare it,to mine? I thank you all for your time and help.
'Stumped in vt'
kathrynvt
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Maybe it's a token of some kind
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This is going to be very, very hard without a picture of your coin to start with; if you can obtain one and either post it here on the forum or e-mail it to someone to post here, that would help get rid of a lot of the "maybes" and "possiblys" that follow. All those symbols (shield, lion, castles, towers) tell me that it might be something Spanish colonial; those symbols are often used on their coins. However, two things lead me away from this suggestion: it's bronze (the Spanish colonies made hardly any bronze coinage until the wars of independence) and the shape of the lion doeesn't match; the Spanish Lion of Leon stands on its hind legs. Here's a copper copy of an old Spanish dollar, to show what I mean:  Another possibility that occurs to me is the British colony of Gibraltar. They issued official coins and semi-official tokens in the early 180's; a 3-towered castle and a British lion sitting, holding a key in its front paw, were both used on these coins - but I can't see one where both are on the same side of a coin, though. I don't have one to show you a picture of, but here's a pic I pinched off an http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBRALTAR-TOK...RO_W0QQitemZ280044739915QQihZ018QQcategoryZ58535QQcmdZViewItem Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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11/15/2006 03:33 am
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I'm having trouble with the "Uploading images" Tutorial above...anyway... Here is the other side of the coin...sounds like the right one. Image:  Copy of DSCN7107.jpg87.38 KB Has a shield, Lion as discribed, castle and towers and the right size. The reverse has a person operating some sort of machine. So this is a Token, but I don't know what sort. I have it in my "Unknown" pile also. Someone here may be able to solve this for us now with these pictures. This is dated 1792Kathryn..is this the right coin ? By the way...A nice big WELCOME to the coin community family, I hope you enjoy your stay.  Edited by toast
11/15/2006 03:42 am
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Ah, that's definitely what the Americans call a "Conder token", a privately-issued token struck in England in the late 1700's. Toast's example was indeed struck in 1792. There's actually a picture of a very similar one on the cover of my copy of Seaby's "British Tokens and their Values" catalogue, except that one is named for the city of Norwich. A bit of googling shows that the castle above lion is the badge or coat of arms of that city. So now we know where in the catalogue to look. Unfortunately, this little book doesn't have many pictures to aid the casual browser - except for on the cover!  ) Toast, yours is listed as 18th century Norfolk, types 38 to 43 - there are six varieties of the "man-working-with-loom" design dated 1792. I'm sure Conder experts can speak on it better than I can. Kathrynvt, this might well be your type, too, though there are several other types with the same shield on the obverse but with different reverse designs listed in the catalogue. Possible options include: a repeat of the shield design, or a slightly different shield; a plough; a shop front; a sword; an eagle. The catalogue is very light on detail as to what words accompany these pictures. At least you know roughly whay you've got, there. Hope this helps solve a couple of mysteries. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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