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 Posted 11/14/2006  11:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sn31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all!!
A friend of mine gave me a handful of coins,she had
tucked away,mainly mexican coins,but there is one that
I've got,I've never seen before.It has a hole in it.It'sjust
a little smaller than quarter size.It has a 5 on each side of the coin,and at the top it says"consumers tax",and at the bottom it says
"check Oklahoma",both sides read exactly the same.Can anyone tell me
what it is,and anything about it?
Thanks :)sn31.
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11/15/2006 01:00 am
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 Posted 11/15/2006  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like some sort of sales tax or retirement tax token, but it wouldn't be a standard state issued piece. I'd have to see an image of it to get a better idea.
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 Posted 11/15/2006  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "5" is the denomination: 5 mils, or ½ a cent. I have two Oklahoma tax tokens with much the same design, except "check" is replaced with the word "token": aluminium, 22mm with round centre hole; one says on the reverse "for old age assistance", the other "for old age pensions".

I think tax tokens are cooll. What's your 5 mil piece made of, sn31?
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 Posted 11/18/2006  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sn31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks you two for the responses,I'm sorry,but I am still having computer problems,and havn't been able to get on the internet.
Yes,I did find out it is a mill.I don't know what metal is in it though.It's tarnished looking.
Sap,how did you come across yours?
Thanks again, :) sn31.
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 Posted 11/18/2006  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by sn31
Sap,how did you come across yours?
Thanks again, :) sn31.

Same place most folks in North America probably get them - dealer's scratchtrays. For the two Oklahomas, one was from a regional dealer (Mackay, north Queensland) that doesn't handle much "foreign stuff"; the other from a mostly-retired, part-time dealer at a swap-n-sell meet here in Brisbane. Both cost just AU$1 or 2.
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 Posted 11/19/2006  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sn31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What year did these come out in?I'll have to check around,and see if I can find one like yours,to go with the one I have.Another interesting peice to add to my odd collection.
:) sn31.
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 Posted 11/19/2006  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing. An answer about an Oklahoma token, coming from an Australian!!
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 Posted 11/19/2006  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've always considered them an interesting and legitimate part of my "world coin" collection.

There's plenty of information on the Web about them, though I don't think anyone's ever posted a comprehensive catalogue; The ATTS is coming close, but doesn't seem to have pics for Oklahoma yet.

I've found this site to be an excellent one-page summary of the circumstances of the issue. of tax tokens generally. There's also a good (though I don't know how up-to-date it is) index of books and other references for the series.

This site also has a brief summary. Perhaps not surprisingly, its on a tax lawyer's website!

Yes, those are the top three hits when you Google "Sales Tax Tokens" - but they're still good.
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11/19/2006 06:53 am
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 Posted 11/19/2006  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sn31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Burke

Amazing. An answer about an Oklahoma token, coming from an Australian!!



No Joke!!,and what's sad is...I am an
Oklahoman!!Guess,I better pull my head outta
Canadian coins for awhile,and focus on some US coins...
NAH!!

Thanks Sap,you are always most helpful,and your knowledge
about coins,simply amazes me!!

:) sn31.
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11/19/2006 9:09 pm
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 Posted 11/20/2006  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If those are anything like the ones I have from Missouri, they are tax tokens. They were real popular back in the 40's. You all are obviously to young to remember them but they are tax tokens and were called mills. Way, way back in history, the 30's and 40's, we had taxes such as .003 cents for example. When that occured you would simply pull out 3 of the .001cent ones and pay you tax. If the tax was .007 you would use 2 of the .001 and one .005 mills. I have several rolls of the Missouri ones from when I was a kid. Most plastic and came in colors such as green or red. The metal ones had a whole in the center and most of the ones I have are the .005 variety. Not sure of the composition of the metal ones but probably Aluminum.
I sure wish we could go back to paying taxes in .001 cents for an item. I think the sales taxes around here have gotten to the point that they are larger than the item.
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 Posted 11/21/2006  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sn31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the depth of your info Just Carl,I always love hearing personal history,and yes,I am too young to remember these,but thanks to people like you,I get great education.I agree with you,it would be nice to have these kind of taxes only again!!
Thanks again,
:)sn31.
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