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1893 Columbian Expostion See Pictures Of Alteration/Damage

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"Love Token" "Good luck" regardless I knew what it was when I purchased it. It was done fairly primitively. I suspect it was once in a pendant.

Here are the pictures

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I'm confused about what I am supposed to be looking at?

Please describe again what the photos of those 3 coins are supposed to be showing.

Then we might be able to offer some opinions.

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The one in the center has the lettering and date ground off.
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OK ... IMHO ... I do not see anything except severe PMD ... nothing that adds any value to the coin ... your defaced Columbian is worth melt value ... IMHO.

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I doubt any of them are worth anything other than melt. Just found it interesting someone took the time to grind of the lettering and date.
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Could it be a counterfeit?
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Taking off the real date and legend leaves 1492 as the only date shown. If so, someone may have been trying to pass off the coin as a 1492 coin commemorating the voyage of Columbus. I know it's a long shot, but people have tried stranger things.

Once it was defaced, someone who didn't know of the coin might think it was a Spanish coin worth thousands of dollars. As the coins aren't worth very much in circulated condition, trying to sell one to an unknowing buyer as a 400+ year old coin could have been the motivation.

Did they get around to removing the lettering on the obverse also?

Just a thought. Some people will try anything if they think they can make a quick buck.


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I doubt any of them are worth anything other than melt. Just found it interesting someone took the time to grind of the lettering and date.


PCGS shows the price of the 1893 in MS-67 as $14,500, but only 8 have that grade. The 1892 in MS67+ goes for $15,000, but has a population of 1.
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How does the other side look?
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the opposite side is intact
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Oh, well. Like I said, it was just a thought. I have a 1893 in circulated condition that I bought to make into a ring, but I couldn't punch a hole in it. ebay has lots of damaged and holed coins, so I'll just buy another one when I find it. I really didn't think it would bother me use a circulated coin for a ring, but I just can't.

I also bought a 1953 Washington-Carver for $16 back in October of 2010. To my surprise, it was an uncirculated coin in great condition. I couldn't ruin it either. I did get several Barber, Walker, Franklin and Kennedy halves with major damage all for $8 to $12. These I had no problem punching holes in. I even found 3 Morgan dollars with holes in the center for less than $18 each. I sold the scrap pieces to the local Gold & Silver buyer.
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OK ... IMHO ... I do not see anything except severe PMD ... nothing that adds any value to the coin ... your defaced Columbian is worth melt value ... IMHO.

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You know, I never thought about someone trying to pass it off as a coin from 1492. Also, I agree that, in spite of being 118 years old, 2 of the 3 will most likely meet the heat.
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