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Wife and I travelled to Colorado Springs for our grand daughter's first birthday. By chance, there was a gun/jerky/coin show about 4 blocks from her house. Of course, I attended. Six different coin dealers were there. This coin was at the end of the first aisle. After spying the coin on Saturday, I scrounged all of the info off of the internet and emailed a friend. Purchased the coin on Sunday after the dealer agreed to remove it from the 2x2. Formal apology on the photography up front. Did the best that I could with what I had. When viewing the coin out of the 2x2, I noticed doubling on the reverse, especially in the 0 of ONE. (see picture). Check the inside of the rim on the obverse above TRUST as well - doubling there as well. Some doubling in the obverse lettering (very slight)and on Lincolns profile. So, on with the show, thoughts on PR or MS? The rim is VERY square with the world. The photos were taken at an angle to take advantage of the poor lighting that I had. The picture tends to skew the rims to make them look uneven, when in fact, they are absolutely even and square. There are two die varieties for the 09 VDB matte proof coins - check PCGS website for info. I do NOT believe this is a proof, but man...I REALLY hope it is! :) Grade away.      |
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Looks like shift doubling (correct term?) to me, other wise a lot more characters would be "doubled" as well. Still a nice piece, not sure about regular strike or proof.  Here are some indicators of the proof VDB; I couldn't see any signs of die scratches running in front of and below the nose on this coin. I thought perhaps they were being hidden by the deep toning on the coin's surface. Next, I looked to see if I could find the die scratch that runs from the back of Lincoln's coat into the field and running up toward the right leg of the are of Liberty. Another "no show" for this die scratch. http://www.pcgs.com/articles/articl...d=313&type=1You could use one of the major search engines to finad additional info: 1909 vdb proof characteristicsHow did you pay for this V.D.B.? Edited by oih82w8
07/11/2011 1:57 pm
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I think the doubling is machine and not die. As far as a proof....hard to tell for sure. The markers all the primary indicator but there's at least 2 of these documented that don't have the usual markers. With a mintage of about 1000, I sure hope you have one....but don't hold your breath. LOL
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If it's not a proof, then you're stuck with a really beautiful MS VDB. Oh no!  |
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If this turns out to be a proof - coin will be sold....and some of the proceeds going towards an S VDB to complete my collection. :)
Please....keep commenting. Any info would be great.
Packing up for the five hour car ride. Signing off. :)
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I'll have you know you're giving me a stiff neck having to tilt my head 90 degrees just to grade off these.  MS-64. I say MS because I have a VDB that has that same color and texture and it's not a PR. I hope you got one, but it doesn't look like it to me. |
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Wait AC was it a proof? Lol
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Forgot to update this. ANACS slabbed as details - recolored....and not a proof.
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Recolored? BAH! Get to the crackin! That's a nice coin, looks 65RB to me.
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A good example of the difference between in hand and photo grading
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I know. This resides in the dark reaches of my coin safe, still in the slab. Seriously thought about cracking it out and letting it sit on the window sill for a couple of months.
I still like the doubling on the O and the sharp rims on the inside.
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Soak it in xylene for a few hours to see if the color changes....I don't think it will. I don't think it's "recolored", that's just a cop-out TPG's use when they don't want anything "outside of the norm" in their slabs. I've seen it a hundred and one times. Crack it, soak it and leave it raw....it's a nice coin IMO. You don't need a TPG to try and tell you anything different. Edited by BadThad
07/10/2012 6:16 pm
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