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Strange Ebay Negotiations!

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I'm new to ebay and I'm sure many others have some much weirder stories, but here are a couple of my recent experiences.

Was looking at two similar coins both "BIN or best offer" and in the same range. I liked the one very slightly better than the other and haggled it down to a final $105 offer from $135. The other was down to $110 from $130 and I made him a last counteroffer of $99 - leveling with him that I had another offer for a slightly better coin for 105 he'd have to beat and thus that was as high as I'd go. He re-countered with $106, so I bought the other one.

The "loser" must have had remorse about passing on my $99 offer as he emails me saying he'll re-open it as a BIN offer for $99 for one day for me, and he did list it as BIN for $99 for the day. TOO LATE BUD!

Then there was today's "negotiations". I offered 30% less than asked on a coin with some issues so I would only buy it at a good bargain. The seller counter-offers 10% less than he'd listed. I came up to 20% less for it - which was my bottom line on it. He "goes the other way" and INCREASES his counter to only 7.5% less than original. LOL Could have been a type-o, or that he forgot what he originally offered. But I doubt it! I've bought from the seller before, NEVER AGAIN now!
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I've had offers made on coins before. The next time you setup a deal, ask the seller to price the coin high, with the "best offer" option. If he agrees,no one else should be able to get the coin before you do. When the seller gets your offer he knows it's you making the offer at the agreed price.

Having the seller do a Buy It Now for a negotiated price is a matter of exact timing. If you don't see it first, it's usually gone to the first buyer that finds it.

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I'd already used up my 3 offers/counters, as had he. Maybe that's why he didn't do it that way. But it was his doing and idea, I neither agreed to it nor responded - as I'd told him that was my final offer - and meant it!

Frankly, if he was willing to take $99 from me, why not anyone? From his perspective it shouldn't matter. I guess some sellers will honor the "art of the haggle" but don't want anyone else to benefit - in case they can get more still. I can see maybe giving a good repeat customer a better deal ( through best offer bargaining ) than others - but that particular seller I'd never done business with at all before.


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I've had offers made on coins before. The next time you setup a deal, ask the seller to price the coin high, with the "best offer" option. If he agrees,no one else should be able to get the coin before you do. When the seller gets your offer he knows it's you making the offer at the agreed price.

Having the seller do a Buy It Now for a negotiated price is a matter of exact timing. If you don't see it first, it's usually gone to the first buyer that finds it.
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On the other side of things. I was pleasantly surprised by a seller the other day. I'd offered $65 on a coin he had listed for $100. In considering my offer he said he looked at the coin again closely and noticed a small scratch on the obverse that doesn't show in the pictures.

Instead of grabbing up my offer, he offered me two options. Either he'd decline the offer and re-list it, if I was no longer interested knowing there was a scratch, or he'd counter-offer $50 if I wanted it for that.

He's now on my "fav seller's list" for his honesty and not trying to take advantage of the situation. A few folks, at least, aren't out to rip off anyone they can.
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sounds like one for the keeper bin BuffalosRock
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Another weird one last week.

I haggle a MS62 NGC Buffalo nickel down to 32 from a BIN or best ask of 43 ( NGC list was 41 on it ). I pay and then a few days later I get an email that the seller wants to cancel. He emails me saying he can't find the coin in his inventory, but will make it up to me with a deal if I select a different coin of his instead.

So I find two others I'm mildly interested in. One nickel that he has listed at 75 that "NGC lists for 66". I propose the same "9 below list" I got for the other - so 57. He offers 67 instead, which is NOT a deal at all let alone a make-up offer ( it isn't even the 11 below his ask that the first was - and it was only inflated by 2 to start ).

So I switch to the other coin instead, which is a Walker that he has listed at 30, I offer 25 which is extremely reasonable all things considered. He counters 27.

I ask you, what kind of make-up deal are those? I now "more than half" think he cancelled the original not because he couldn't find it, but because he regretted agreeing to a decent price on it instead - and that the "lost it" thing was all a bunch of BULL!
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I rarely sell on ebay anymore at least coins..
When I do sell I want a fast turnaround so I average all the final bids for the item and list it BIN for slightly less. I also include a make an offer option but it's only a small percentage below the BIN. I don't mind people haggling. But some people think the 'make an offer tool' is some sort of magic jackpot button. When I get what I consider to be a ridiculously low offer on a coin I tend to counter with a an increased price.
Most buyers know a bargain when they see one and just BIN some get overly greedy and often loose the item to a BIN before they have used their 3 tries.. I agree if a coin has an obviously high BIN and a make an offer then the seller is probably trying to negotiate a price rather than auction.
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