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Gold Moving Higher In Asia In Early Trading

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Up to $1614. Silver up .40.
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It was $1622 at 7pm eastern time and has dropped back. Any ideas what may have caused the big jump?
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Looks like some of the drop back is from the dollar gaining strength. It may be an interesting evening! I would love to see gold hit $1625 by the time the stock market opens and watch all the talking heads crap their pants!
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True Hock and you may just get your wish, as I have been tracking it late till post 3, and the gold is back across $1618 and silver is a quarter shy of 41 bucks....

I think this 3 steps forward 1 step back pattern we have seen most recently for gold and silver is gonna continue this week due to a strong start and obvious economic factors. I place a HUGE importance on that first 12 hours after the Asian markets opens, as it sets the tone so to speak for the new week. Not to say Pm's could not fall off the mountain the next five days, but just like in a best of 7 series in sports, the team that wins game one, has about a 65 to 70 percent chance of winning the series....
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At least gold has a new high to fall back from!
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High was $1621+ this morning!
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I think gold is moving higher because neither sides were able to reach some sort of agreement on the debt limit.
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Agreement, no agreement. They blew it long ago and this August 2nd deadline is at best going to let the US eek by on just paying the interest on governments uncontrolled spending. When you have to print money to meet the minimum obligation well then yes,Mr. Bernanke, gold is most certainly a lot closer to being money than the dollar is. The dollar is about as valuable as the paper that it's printed on plus ink and labor. Whoops, the guy running the printer makes $100,000 a year plus benefits. The dollar is worth LESS than the paper and ink.
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According to a couple of articles I read this morning,some of the rise may be due to the potential problems with implementing the Greece bailout. Ya know,sometimes the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry!
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According to a couple of articles I read this morning,some of the rise may be due to the potential problems with implementing the Greece bailout.


Yeah that was part of the day's thesis in "The Gartman Letter" too. I'll just periphrase since its a subscription only letter (but you can get a free trial). Something about the lies coming out in the statements by the leaders in Europe about the Greece bailout and the rest of the PIIGS contagion are the biggest lies from any government in the last oh say 35-40 years.
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I think gold is moving higher because neither sides were able to reach some sort of agreement on the debt limit.

I heard that as well.

Personally, I think that it will be good to stop all this can kicking down the road, realize that we are well and truly out of road, and stop making borrowing huge sums of money so darned easy. Because borrowing is so easily done, no one in DC thought anything of just doing more of it to "solve" our financial problems. This is not a solution, it is a delaying tactic. Like all other problems where people delay fixing them, they just keep getting worse and worse until they are completely unmanageable.

Imagine if you felt sick, went to your doc, and he says, "Take some aspirin and don't worry about that lump on your body. Take as much aspirin as you want for the pain. If it causes BIG trouble in a few years, we'll worry about it then". Huh? Funny how putting financial behavior in physical terms makes it so clearly ridiculous.

I see and hear on TV that if we do not borrow trillions more to pay off the interest on the trillions we've already borrowed, we will face higher interest rates. Well, GOOD! We've needed higher interest rates for a couple of years now and Bernanke is preventing them from happening. It SHOULD be more difficult to go into debt, not easier. Savings SHOULD be more valuable and not less. Making something easy and convenient only guarantees more of it, not less. The spending orgy is over. It is time to clean up after the party.

Isn't it funny that no bank will have a person as a customer if that person handles their money like the US government? Imagine walking into your local bank and asking for a BIG loan. When they ask about your financial condition, you tell them that your income is declining, your bills are rising, and you owe $45,000 to other creditors. Think that they will loan you ANY money? Nope, they won't, and they will be right not to do so. But... oddly enough... Uncle Sam can still borrow as much as he wants and he IS in that same condition if you multiply it out by 300+ million citizens.

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Interest rates definitely need to go up. That will end cheap money, and cheap money is the problem. The more cheap money, the more inflation, and more we go into debt. The last big recession, in the late '70s and early '80s, was ended mainly by slowly increasing interest rates.
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If they raise the interest rates they will actually have to pay China INTEREST on the hundreds of billions of dollars that they've loaned our nation. The fed is the only other large buyer of t-bills so they'll just rip us off some other way to get the Rothschilds and the rockers lees their payback.
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When you have to print money to meet the minimum obligation well then yes,Mr. Bernanke, gold is most certainly a lot closer to being money than the dollar is.

I loved it when Peter Schiff responded to Bernanke's comment that gold was not money and that central banks only buy gold because of tradition. Schiff said, that central banks have that tradition because, traditionally, gold was and is money.
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I loved it when Dr. Paul asked Bernanke if he thought gold was money and said to Bernanke, If gold is just another commodity then why doesn't the federal reserve hold onto diamonds?.
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I would not be surprised to see gold move in a $100 to $150 trading range one of these days.

Up and Down like a yoyo.

Buckle up for some whip lash.
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