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The 10 Greatest Myths Of Slabbed Coins

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cool read. thanks!
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Myth #2 has given me an idea that should be submit to TPG, with the advent of the +Plus grade system being added to supplement the value of a MS state coin.

Why not a -Minus grade label to coins that are somewhat under their lower end tier.

Of course, nobody will willingly resubmit their MS 65 coin and come back graded as MS65 --.
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That was an interesting read. Heavily propagative, but interesting nonetheless.

One misconception within misconception #5 is:

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Slabbed coins protect you against volatility
and make better investments than unslabbed coins.
This statement is so fallacious that PCGS
warns consumers that this is NOT the case.


The author then goes on to explain the disclaimer PCGS posts. It propagates a misconception that PCGS is somehow concerned and is "doing the right thing" trying to protect investors and collectors from the said misconception.

The fact of the matter is that PCGS itself was the one propagating the "Slabbed coins protect you from volatility" myth and subsequently entered into a consent decree in 1990 requiring them to disclose what they had. Notice also the article is originally copyrighted 1994...that was only a few years after the FTC investigation. The FTC write-up can be found at http://www.ftc.gov/opa/predawn/F93/pcgs-coin8.txt

My own opinion would mandate the following myth as the #1:

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Independent Third Party Graders are there for the benefit of the collectors and investors.


Let it be far from the truth. I read so much propaganda about how much the TPGs are doing to help "strengthen" the hobby against fraud and deception, yet so little about the legal structure of these entities is taken into consideration.

Most all of these TPGs are created as corporations. As a corporation (especially one publicly traded), the entity has a legal responsibility to conduct its business in the best interest of its investors. It is not to look after its customers, but its investors.

Now, I'm not gonna continue ranting on your thread, as there are some good educational points to glean out of the article. However, one cannot consider the "services" the TPGs have, do, and probably will offer without considering also whose interests they are really looking after.

A tiger cannot change his stripes, but he can surely get dirty enough not to notice them.
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Nothing here I haven't preached for years, but he still missed some goodies.
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That's a very good read - thanks for sharing.

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Since its introduction in 1986 by the Professional Coin
Grading Service (PCGS),

Another myth, slabbing was introduced in 1984 by Accugrade.


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MYTH NO. 6: A coin can't deteriorate once it is
encapsulated in a slab.


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Because copper coins are so susceptible to damage and
deterioration, NGC does not guarantee the grades it assigns
to them, as it does with coins produced in other metals. PCGS
does guarantee the grades of copper coins

Since this is an old article this is out of date. NGC does guarantee copper, but only for ten years. PCGS no longer guarantees copper for coins slabbed after Jan 1st 2010 I believe.
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Interesting explanations and someone spent a lot of time doing that. No idea why but mostly correct. As to cracking them open, I've done that in seconds. I've seen dealers do it in seconds also and no damage to the coins.
And of course this was probably written prior to the newest wave of counterfeited slabs coming out of China. And no mention of all the basement varieties either.
All controversies aside, someone did try to make a possibly OK explanation of slabbed coins.
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Good article, agree with NPCoin that TPG's are not necessarily our friends...
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Scott Travers wrote it back in 1993 or 94 and updated it in 2004. The counterfeit slabs didn't start showing up til 2007.
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