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Grading Canadian Coins

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I was on a dealer's site and he mentioned that he goes by the "old" published Charlton standards? Not the standards in the newer catalogs. I think the edition he quoted went back several years?

Is Charlton the generally accepted grading standard? Is there a book similar as we have for individual US coins, photograde/ANA grading standards, that is published for Canadian coins? Does the RCNA publish standard for each coin?

Any direction would be appreciated.

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 Posted 07/27/2011  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Standard Grading Guide For Canadian&Colonial Decimal Coins" by Charlton & Willey is the most widely accepted grading guide,and was discussed here very recently.
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I use this website to help me grade my canadian coins. It has pictures of most monarchs in all grades. Does anyone else use this site? And what are your thoughts?
http://www.coinoisseur.com/GradingCoins.html
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Upon reading the uncirculated section, I was disappointed that MS 62 and MS 64 are not discribed.
In my opinion, I would rather have the MS60 example over the MS 63 example. It looks baggy to me.
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Grading has evolved somewhat, especially with the prevalence of Third Party Grading firms. The "old" grading style is not assigning numbers to the grade. So coins would be labelled as Good, Fine, Very Fine, Extra Fine, Almost Uncirculated, Uncirculated, Brilliant Uncirculated and Choice Brilliant Uncirculated. Split grades would be the better grade with the prefix 'About' assigned to the coin. So a VF-30 coin would be called "About EF"... Some dealers still grade their 'raw' coins this way, I grade my international coin stock (i.e., non-Canadian or American coins) this way as well.

The book DBM mentioned is probably one of the better ones. It is a skill that should get better with time, when you have seen lots of coins of various grades.
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I recently got my hands on a copy of the "Standard Grading Guide For Canadian & Colonial Decimal Coins" by Charlton & Willey. Looking at the Victorian Newfoundland 5 & 10 cent grading criteria, I was surprised to see that the wrong obverse photos were used. Instead of using the traditional ones that are seen on every dime and half-dime from that era, they use the obverse from the 50 cent piece. Does anyone know if this some kind of strange printing error that was corrected in subsequent printings?
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@tfred: Yes, I use that site myself. They have some mistakes (IMHO), but overall it is a good guide.
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kitkat1858,newer editions are corrected
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Charltons is great, the variety section at the back is great well worth the investment of 20.00.
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Quote:
"Standard Grading Guide For Canadian & Colonial Decimal Coins" by Charlton & Willey


the version I have for this is 1965 and IMO it is the better guide for grading....though I have noticed that it seems to be stricter than what people are doing recently...I like stricter though for my collection. I have found also that people seem to be giving coins a higher grade (not as strict) as they used to be has anyone else noticed this.
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