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doctorman1941 Pillar of the Community Canada 504 Posts	Posted 07/28/2011 1:37 pm Any members have stats on how rare the full vine is for this year and the 1859 as well. How much could I expect to pay in XF condition. Report this Post to the Staff

bosox Pillar of the Community United States 1353 Posts	Posted 07/28/2011 7:51 pm Only the first four 1858 dies sunk had the original full vine. The sampling I did for the die catalog indicated that only 4% of all 1858 cents have the full vine. One of the four dies accounted for 2.00% of the 1858 mintage. The other three are quite scarce (sampling said 0.67% of the mintage each). I know of one other 1858 cent die where the engraver made a half hearted attempt to re-engrave the broken vine. It was poorly and weakly done, so you can easily spot it as not one of the four original dies. There may be other 1859 dies where they attempted repairs as well. It is still occasionally possible to find one of these unattributed as a full vine. It is getting much tougher to do so after I published my books and a group of us put it in the last Charlton catalog variety section. It will be moved to the front of this year's Charlton. Personally in EF I think a 25% premium for the most common of the full vine dies (look for a die crack through the D in CANADA on the obverse) is fair. Somewhere between 50% and 100% premium, depending on grade, for any of the other three dies is fair IMO. These are under-rated coins. http://www.victoriancent.com 2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Literary Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA. Edited by bosox 07/29/2011 4:47 pm Report this Post to the Staff
doctorman1941 Pillar of the Community Canada 504 Posts	Posted 07/28/2011 8:57 pm Thank you for all the valuable information on this coin.I started collecting or hoarding in 2003 when I retired.I did have coins when I was younger as I worked for a daily news paper in the circulation dept.I sold a 1958 cent in uncirculated condition for 75 bucks at that time. Hope it was not that variety . Report this Post to the Staff
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