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Valued Member
United States
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Here is something new for you everyone to check out. I need to know the same things but this one looks like it was scrubbed with an abrasive or a scratcher of some kind. Is it authentic? Grade? etc... I will keep you busy lol. Image:  1872 Seated Liberty obverse.jpg32.2 KB It has a 'ting' sound when I flip it. If that means anything. I have been given opinions from others but I would love some fresh ones! Thanks, Diana Image: 1872 Seated Liberty reverse.jpg36.74 KB |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Hi Diana-- I don't think I've welcomed you to the forum before this, so WELCOME! AS you've already figured out, there's lot of friendly folk here loaded with lots of experience and expertise, all willing to share. Swamperbob is our counterfeit expert and may pop in here after he's digested his Thanksgiving dinner. However, while I'm not an expert on Seated Liberty quarters, I would be suspicious for several reasons, not least of all is that it looks too good. First question I would have is how much it weighs? An authentic Seated Liberty 25¢ weighs 6.2200 grams. There will be no significant variation from this measurement unless it is very well circulated (which this is not). However, the "ting" is a good sound as opposed to a "clunk" of a pot metal counterfeit. I can't tell from the images if this is cleaned, but again, it looks too good to be true. I'm also not a SL 25¢ grader, but presuming it's not cleaned, it appears to be in the XF range, maybe down to VF-35 due to wear on the obverse. The reverse is higher, but the top TPGs grade mostly on the obverse. Fred |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Has an awful strong rim for the features on the obverse to look so worn ? The reverse is an EF in my opinion, but I think this coin has been dipped and possibly more. The obverse is at best a F-12 based on my trusty Photograde book. It is probably genuine in my opinion.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Fred, It's a dollar not a quarter :) But I believe the rim to be too wide for a real Seated Liberty dollar. And like I said above it has scratches all over it like it has been scrubbed alot with something. It feels about right though compared to other silver dollars. Thanks Okie. And thanks for the welcome Fred. I look forward to hearing from Swamperbob. If it is a fake(which I have a feeling it might be because of the rim especially) I do believe this is a good learning tool for alot of people who are new to collecting. Looking is free :) Di ANA |
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United States
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It look real to me but it way out of my coin Field I collect Adolph Weinman coins like mercury and walkining liberty half dollars an us pennies us silver mint sets and silver proof sets kodji I hope its real they are making flakes fast and good over seas |
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United States
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I am going to change my mind as I think Diana is correct. I knew something about the rim really bothered me. This may very well be counterfeit although why they would go to that much trouble to do one of the most common dates? They could have added a CC mintmark and made it appear so much scarcer?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Diana, I must be hallucinating in my old age. I could have sworn I saw a quarter.  Time to pack it in, give away everything, and find a nice quiet old soldier's home to spend my final days.    The 72 dollar will weigh the same as a Morgan: 412.5 grains (26.7300 grams). This would be the most definitive indication of whether or not it's a fake. I have seen some counterfeit Morgans with rims which appeared thicker than normal, but weight would be a better indicator. If you haven't got access to a scale, take it to your local gun shop if you have one and let them weigh it on a powder scale (it'll be in grains). If you think you might be doing more weighing in the future, inexpensive powder or other scales are available on ebay. Not a bad investment for those of us who process a lot of 1800s coins. Fred |
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United States
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Fred, You are too funny! Good idea about the weight on the gun scale! That's the first time I have heard that. GREAT. Good idea about getting a scale too. Not a bad idea at all. You should see the obeverse of this so called coin. It has scratches all over it, like they were trying to cover up a multiple replica or something. Okie.......I am real weary of this coin I probably need to give better pictures. I will have to try that when I have a chance to show the blatent scratches and all. Thanks always, Di ANA |
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Sweden
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This one looks suspicious to me. Reminds me of the ones on ebay being sold by shady sellers from Asia. Definitely cleaned, if not a counterfeit. |
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United States
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What specifically looks wrong with it Mynt? I noticed the rim being too wide. But what else do you see?
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United States
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Nice links thanks. I am pretty sure it is a fake I just wanted to know specifics, but those sites answered all that.
Thanks again!
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Posted 11/24/2006 6:03 pm
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