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I just wanted to show off my latest acquisition:



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 Posted 08/09/2011  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin!
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Nice example - I like these and dont think they get enough praise.

I'm sure you already know but if not yours is RIC VII Trier 105 and was minted around 316/317.

Yours is Officinae A, interestingly Trier was also producing Sol coins during this time with AS and BS in the fields and PTR as the mintmark, its a peculiarity as most of the nine mints indicated officinae in the mintmark alone.

TF is thought to stand for TEMPORVM FELICITAS - happyness of the times, a common (ish) saying for the day but the ultimate use of the fields was to indicate the series of the coins incase of problems, lots of variations of field marks exist across all the mints. Constantine II and Crispus also had these 'TF XTR' coins minted at Trier but its one of the few that was not minted under Licinius I's name.

The production and marking of these coins is interesting to study (produced 307 to 319) as it reflects Constantines progress across the Empire, I particularly like the ones with captives in the mintmarks and fields celebrating some of Constantines victories against Maxentius. There is also a theory that some of the marks from London, Arles and Rome celebrate the birth of Constantines children and a very rare coin from London with 'II' in the fields supposedly commemorates Constantines 'vision' from Christ before the battle of Milvian Bridge.
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 Posted 08/09/2011  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thought I'd post a few of mine and a picture of the very rare 'II' coin from London.

First two are TF PTR (313-315) and are favourites. I Like the bust detail on the first and the second has almost 100% silvering beneath the green patina. The third, like yours is from Officenae A at Trier (317-318) but also has an added '.' in the mintmark as a further series distinguisher. The item that Sol is holding often referred to as a 'globe' is well preserved in this example. It is infact not a globe but a 'globus' or 'celestial orb' representing the entire universe.

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This is the rare one from the London mint - only 2 examples know, this one sold for around $1000 about 5 years ago. It is theorised that 'II' stands for 'IMAGO IMPERATORI' (Vision of the Emperor) and it was minted in 310. This is way off the romantic notion of a 'vision' just before the battle of Milvian Bridge in 312 but some accounts of the 'vision' state it as taking place a long time before that particular battle. Truth is we will prob never know for certain. Much like today I suspect the reporters never let the facts get in the way of a good story!

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Sol was a pagan sun God who was celebrated in a feast the 25th of December, Dies Natalis Invicti, "the birthday of the unconquered one.". Its convenient how as Sol disappeared and the Romans became more Christian the same date was used as one of their foremost celebrations! Again, unfortunately, I suspect we will never know the full truth behind these theories and suppositions.

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BobbyHelmet, you never cease to amaze! I don't know what your occupation might be, but if you're not a history teacher you are missing your calling. The knowledge you possess and are willing to share is fascinating.

Your coins are beautiful as well. I particularly like the patina over silver. The patina on most coins makes them more interesting. The last coin, the one from London, is it yours? Its superb. Thanks for sharing all.
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@bobbyhelmet - I am wondering what's that center spot on the reverse side of your first coin?
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Very kind of you to say so JW - perhaps it is time for a career change! Sadly the last coin is not mine, someday maybe!


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I am wondering what's that center spot on the reverse side of your first coin?


I had thought it was just old damage to the coin saturno but having looked closer after you pointed it out its the result of bronze disease. Sadly it looks like its returned too!
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