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A late roman bronze, but in my main collection, this beautiful 1881 S Morgan PCGS MS 65 CAC  |
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This is my oldest. Bavaria 20 kreuzer from 1763.  |
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My oldest is from one of the HFBCWG threads is 1495 Cavallo of Naples  |
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I just looked back and my previously oldest is now in fourth place as their are now three older.  So here is the current oldest... 1806 Half Cent |
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Quote:Oldest overall: Olbia dolphin, anepigraphic, no idea what the type or approximate date is but it's clearly older than anything else I have Oldest coin-shaped: Pantikapaion tetrachalkon, ca. 220-210 BC Oldest silver: about two thirds of a Valerian I antoninianus (ORIENS AVGG, 253-260 AD) Oldest non-billon silver: assuming the seller did not misattribute it, late 14th century Suzdal something, very damaged so I can't read the legend Oldest non-billon silver I can trust the identification of: damaged (can't recall how at the moment) Moscow denga of Ivan III (1462-1505) Oldest dated: probably one of the Byzantine follises and half-follises Oldest dated I know the date of: 1517 Salzburg zweier (also oldest AD dated, and oldest undamaged silver) Oldest US: very worn, probably harshly cleaned, Matron Head large cent (ca. 1820-37) Oldest dated US: 1841 large cent Oldest US silver: Barber dime, can't recall the date Oldest English: preliminarily 1699 William III 4 pence, but I have some very worn copper coins that may be slightly older, and one large silver that is probably fake but would be slightly older if it was real Oldest Russian: see above for "oldest non-billon silver" Oldest undamaged Russian: Ivan IV sword kopek (ca. 1535-38) I probably missed some categories; if so, sorry. I have no gold coins (aside from Siberian copper). Update for January 17, 2017... Oldest overall: still the Olbia dolphin Oldest coin-shaped: probably that one Ptolemaic, if the seller's vague attribution is right (still can't figure out how to make a photo of that dark thing) - supposedly mid 3rd century BC Oldest coin-shaped I know (and can trust) the attribution for: still the Pantikapaion tetrachalkon Oldest silver: very very worn denarius of Faustina (Junior, IIRC, but not sure - haven't seen it in months), 2nd century AD; also oldest undamaged silver (if huge lots of wear don't count as damage), and oldest non-billon silver Oldest dated: um, does it count if the date is off flan? if not, probably still something Byzantine, though I'm somewhat unsure of that one Roman provincial Oldest dated I know the date of: Byzantine follis, Justin II year 6 (~570 AD) Oldest AD dated: still the 1517 Salzburg zweier Oldest US, oldest non-dateless US, oldest US silver: still as above, I haven't bought many old US coins lately Oldest English: also still as above Oldest Russian, oldest Russian I know the attribution for, and oldest undamaged Russian: still the Suzdal? piece, the Ivan III denga, and the sword kopek, respectively Still no gold (though I did get quite a bit more Siberian copper). |
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Bump.  My last post on this thread was over a year ago, when I said my oldest coin was some Roman one from the 340s. That has since changed, however, and that one is now my fourth oldest coin. My current oldest one is a 1/2 liang piece from the Western Han Dynasty of China, which was made from 136 BCE to 119 BCE:  Edited by Joseph7420
09/02/2017 01:46 am
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510-486 BC Lydia under Persian rule...   |
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1578 France Henri III 1/8 ecu.   |
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Maroneia (Thrace), 400-350 BC.   |
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Quote:Update for January 17, 2017... Oldest overall: still the Olbia dolphin Oldest coin-shaped: probably that one Ptolemaic, if the seller's vague attribution is right (still can't figure out how to make a photo of that dark thing) - supposedly mid 3rd century BC Oldest coin-shaped I know (and can trust) the attribution for: still the Pantikapaion tetrachalkon Oldest silver: very very worn denarius of Faustina (Junior, IIRC, but not sure - haven't seen it in months), 2nd century AD; also oldest undamaged silver (if huge lots of wear don't count as damage), and oldest non-billon silver Oldest dated: um, does it count if the date is off flan? if not, probably still something Byzantine, though I'm somewhat unsure of that one Roman provincial Oldest dated I know the date of: Byzantine follis, Justin II year 6 (~570 AD) Oldest AD dated: still the 1517 Salzburg zweier Oldest US, oldest non-dateless US, oldest US silver: still as above, I haven't bought many old US coins lately Oldest English: also still as above Oldest Russian, oldest Russian I know the attribution for, and oldest undamaged Russian: still the Suzdal? piece, the Ivan III denga, and the sword kopek, respectively Still no gold (though I did get quite a bit more Siberian copper). Update for September 2, 2017... Oldest overall: either the Olbia dolphin mentioned above or, more likely, the Kyzikos hemiobol (5th century BC) Oldest coin-shaped, and oldest silver: said Kyzikos hemiobol (also undamaged, and non-billon) Oldest coin-shaped I know the attribution for: Pantikapaion AE, ca. 389-379 BC (Anokhin 87) Oldest coin-shaped I know and can trust the attribution for: probably still the 220-210 BC tetrachalkon (the coin mentioned above is so dark that I can barely see the design) Oldest dated: honestly, no idea (and, again, does it count if the date is off flan?) Oldest dated I know the date of: AE of Antiochus VII, Seleukid era 174 (= 138 BC) Oldest AD dated, oldest US, oldest Russian, oldest English: no change (though I came close a few times on the first two) Still no actual gold either (though, IIRC, yet more Siberian copper). Edited by january1may
09/02/2017 10:43 am
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Roman silver denarius of Trajan (AD 104-107)  |
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 If it were not for Finn235 who supplied this info, I wouldn't know the difference between this and a tiddly wink.
Indo-Greek Kingdom, Apollodotus II AR Drachm 80-65 BCBasileos Soteros Apollodotou, bust right Translation of same in Kharosthi, Athena standing left, holding Aegis and throwing thunderbolt The Indo-Greek kingdom was a splinter state from Greek Bactria, pushing into what we would today consider India. The kings maintained their Greek names and Heritage, but many learned the native languages and converted to Buddhism. Their kingdom thrived for about a century before being crushed by the invading Scythians and rising Kushans. This is about an average example of the type. |
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Good to see this one bumped with some great additions!  |
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Wouldn't you know it, I have a new oldest too: India, Gandhara AR "bent bar" shatamana c. 600-450 BC 11.49g, 38x6mm   I guess this somewhat straddles the line between money and proto-money, although it meets the minimum requirements of being a standard weight and bearing a mark of authority. This is the oldest Indian coin, and while not as old as certain Lydian coins, it may be one of three independent inventions of coinage. It is equal in weight to 2 Persian sigloi, but the extreme rarity of 1/2 shatamana coins has some believe the relationship is coincidental. |
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