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I'd Like Some Information On Chinese Coins I Bought In 1979

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 Posted 08/10/2011  4:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tmac to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

received some old coins that I purchased in Wuhan, China in 1979. 2 of them still have the tags that were attached in the store and on the opposite side a seal that indicates they were approved for export. I don't remember anything about the coins, except that I paid 25 yuan for the 3 larger ones ( 2 with the seal & the one with the Boo? character ) Any help to identify/value the coins would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Thomas

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 Posted 08/10/2011  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
tmac- I hate to tell you, but these are most likely Chinese charms which look much like Chinese cash coins. These may in fact be old, and may have a slight value if in fact genuine, but they do not appear to be actual coins.
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 Posted 08/10/2011  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the contrary, the two with tags on are charms; the others are all coins. There's no indication of scale in your pics, but I assume they're all fairly large.

The smallest, orange-coloured one (bottom-centre of first pic) is from the Song dynasty, a "slender gold style" 10 cash of emperor Hui Zong during his Chong Ning period (1102-1106 AD). A beautiful yet common coin; there are four whole pages of them on zeno.ru.

The next largest, top left of first pic, is one of the few cheap and common coins obtainable from the Yuan Dynasty (Mongol Empire of Kublai Khan and successors). We know from the historical records that large numbers of these 10-cash coins were made in 1310 AD. Unlike most Chinese coins, these are written in the Mongolian "Phagsba" script. There are eight pages of these on zeno.ru.

The largest, bottom left of first pic, is more modern, a large 50 cash of the Xian Feng emperor of the Qing dynasty (1850-1861), made in the Wuhan mint.
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 Posted 08/10/2011  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, Great info, Sap! I'm glad to be proven wrong about the three coins without tags. They honestly just struck me as looking rather odd and charm-like. Congrats on having three interesting coins, tmac!
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Also, keep the Xianfeng 50 cash one as they are getting quite expensive right now on the Chinese markets. I had the luck to work with a 100 at the ANA, and it was quite err... expensive and heavy!

Interesting story behind the large denomination coins was that they were made by Xianfeng to more easily finance his government. Usual Chinese coins back then only went up to 10 cash (when they were made) so this was a kind of senioriage tact. These coins were very unpopular and were never minted again until the end of the empire.

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 Posted 08/10/2011  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manymore to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The two with the tags are charms.

The one with the 24 "good fortune" and "longevity" characters on each side is discussed in detail here: http://primaltrek.com/fortunelongevity.html

The pendant charm with the four character inscription on each side is discussed here: http://primaltrek.com/loopcharms.ht...ming_bai_sui

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 Posted 08/11/2011  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tmac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for responding to my inquiry and the information provided to identify the coins & charms. I never knew that some of them are actually charms, as they were sold to me as coins. But than again, the chinese knew that those "long noses" had much more money than they would earn in a year. If I remember correctly a bicycle sold for 350 yuan back in the days and it would take a regular worker more than a year to gather the funds to purchase one.

Thanks again for all your help. Best Thomas
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