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1813 Bust Half 50c/Uni Question

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I just purchased this bust half on the net . It is in an old PCGS holder. I didn't notice from the pics from the net, that it appears to be a 'doubled die'. It may be hard to see on the obverse Liberty's lips/nose/face and neck. It may look like it is out of focus, but momma has four lips!

I have googled around the net and have not found any references.
Is this a common of this type as I am not too familiar with this type.

So to any of you bust half experts have any opinions ? I think this grades out about XF-45.

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I believe that this is O-101a R-4 1813 UNI reverse, that I would grade at EF-40.
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It would not be a doubled die though. The dies back then were not hubbed, they different parts were punched in individually. It is possible to have doubling from repunching of a letter or star etc. Now the central device was one big punch that would typically be punched in using a screwpress, but I am not aware of any central device punches that were "repunched" in any of the pre-hubbing era. Doubled dies tended to make their appearance once all of the details of the finished coin (except the date) was in the hub and the entire die was created at once. Since this spead the pressure over a larger area a single hubbing was usually not enough to fully impress the design in the die. If there was a misalignment then between subsequent hubbings a doubled die would occur.
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Conder101,
Thanks for the information. I was not sure how the coin got its appearance. It's in a PCGS holder with no mention of this 'repunching'. I was not sure it was a minting issue or tooled.

Your explanation fits the appearance of the coin. Was this something that PCGS does not mention in the slab? And is there any reason for me to resubmit.
I am new to this series, so any info would definitely be appreciated by this noodle!
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