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1795 Large Cent On Ebay

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I really need help about this one......Is it real? and if it is real, is it worth it?
I will appreciate any info.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/1795-Plain-Edge...t_500wt_1155
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 Posted 08/18/2011  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No refunds on slabbed coins.
So I wonder if that SEGS slab discloses the badly tooled hair? I can only guess this coin will be sold for more than its worth. It's corroded and damaged intentionally--I'd avoid it.
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I would avoid it too. You can see why it is graded by SGS.... ANACS, NGC, and PCGS would not go near it. I would stay away, and I agree with DV, it will probably be sold for more than it's worth.
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 Posted 08/18/2011  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sunshine99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys I will stay away from this one...
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You can see why it is graded by SGS.... ANACS, NGC, and PCGS would not go near it.

That is a SEGS holder(a real TPG), not an SGS holder(illegitimate plastic clamshell) and yes- ANACS, NGC, and PCGS would have slabbed that coin.
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DVCollector, as a learning tool for me. How can you tell it was "damaged intentionally"? Also, who is SEGS? Not listed in the Glossary and a strange slab. I would assume a third grade grading system. If that is the correct terminology. Thanks.
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DVCollector, as a learning tool for me. How can you tell it was "damaged intentionally"?
It's my opinion the hair detail on that coin was "helped", ie tooled poorly. Compare to an NGC "fine details".
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That is a SEGS holder(a real TPG), not an SGS holder(illegitimate plastic clamshell) and yes- ANACS, NGC, and PCGS would have slabbed that coin.


Shows how much know about slabs. lol. I usually buy raw coins so let's just ignore everything I said.
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 Posted 08/18/2011  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost looks like something someone shot at with a shotgun a long time ago. They used to do that with shot shells in a revolver to make it appear they are fantastic shots.
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 Posted 08/18/2011  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sunshine99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it does look like its been shot.....
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I asked the seller for pictures of the holder and who graded the coin just to see what type of response I'll get. I'll post whatever his response is when/if I get one.

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would assume a third grade grading system.
My mistake, TPG Third Party Grader thanks Biokemist6 and DVCollector.
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I asked the seller for pictures of the holder and who graded the coin just to see what type of response I'll get. I'll post whatever his response is when/if I get one.

We can only wait to see the response
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Yeah, I'd stay away from that one. It's ugly and unattractive IMO.
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Does it say what type of edge it is?

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Oops, it said plain edge. Apologies.

So that would make it a S.76B. The diagnostics all look right so that would make the issue "retooling." Depending how crazy the bidding goes, or if people stay away, it might be an interesting buy. Who wouldn't want a 1795 LC, even a scudzy one?

Take it out of the slab, keep it in your pocket for a year or two and viola, the issues might disappear. Been done many times.

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