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7 Mace And 2 Candareens

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 Posted 06/28/2015  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ScottsdaleTreazures to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it possible that a genuine Hu Peh Dollar could have been used in this sterling silver Chinese Export saucer.

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 Posted 06/28/2015  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Savedbygrace83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have serval of these coins with different sayings and pictures. All of them stick to a magnet. Are they all fake? Thanks for any help. God bless. I can email pictures of needed
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 Posted 06/28/2015  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add X2an to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they stick to a magnet then they are definite fakes, since they're supposed to be made of silver.
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 Posted 06/28/2015  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is it possible that a genuine Hu Peh Dollar could have been used in this sterling silver Chinese Export saucer.

Anything is possible, I suppose, but it's fairly unlikely, especially if the piece cannot be reliably dated to the early 20th century. We've seen several coins-as-bases-of-bowls on the forum before, mainly from Latin American countries where it seems to have been the fashion at one stage; not all of them have been replica coins. Here's one with a genuine Brazilian coin.

"Embowlment" irreversibly ruins the coin, from a coin collector's viewpoint, so even if genuine it would have to be a rare coin indeed for it to be of interest to a coin collector.
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 Posted 09/05/2015  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ak3dgfx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi folks and thanks for the add to the forum. We stumbled across you when going through a bag of old coins and found this Chinese one in among them

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The other side is as several others on this thread with Hu Pell (Pen) Province and 7 Mace and 2 Candareens

Apart from the fact it's not magnetic - that's all we know about it....Any thoughts? Fake?

Thanks in anticipation
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 Posted 09/05/2015  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manymore to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The other side is as several others on this thread with Hu Pell (Pen) Province...

The reverse side says that it was made in "Hu Pell (Pen) Province" but the obverse side says in Chinese "Made in Shaanxi Province".

The coin can't seem to make up its mind where it was minted.

Sorry but it's a fake.
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 Posted 09/05/2015  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ak3dgfx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no need to apologise - I expected nothing more :)

Thanks for your input
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 Posted 09/27/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sparks88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, I have this 7 Mace and 2 Candareens Hu-Peh Province Coin. I don't have a way to weigh it out to see if it weighs around 26.7 grams, but the revers side concerns me. The characters aren't like anything I have seen on anyone else's coin like this, so I am not sure if it is real. I would greatly appreciate anyone's input, and also, if anyone knows what any of the characters say on this coin, I would appreciate that as well.
P.S. I apologize for the odd black tarnish obscuring the coin. It was like that when I came across it and I am not sure what it is.

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 Posted 09/27/2015  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manymore to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...but the revers side concerns me. The characters aren't like anything I have seen on anyone else's coin like this, so I am not sure if it is real...

The English side states that it was made in "Hu-Peh Province" with a denomination of "7 Mace and and 2 Candareens".

The Chinese side states that it was made in Kashi (Kashgar) with a denomination of "One Tael".

Sorry but the coin is a fake.

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 Posted 09/29/2015  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sparks88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much for your reply, Gary. I just needed to know. I was actually hoping it was fake 'cause I wanted an excuse to keep it. It doesn't matter so much the value of it moneywise to me because I value this coin myself based on my own standards. I was just extremely curious of what it said and whether or not it was actually real. Thank you for clearing that up for me. :)

P.S. What us "One Tael"? Never heard of that...
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 Posted 10/25/2015  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PluckyMermaid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all, I have a Hu-Peh province coin. I got it years ago when cleaning out a house of a lady who had passed away. I have matched up the inscriptions on both sides and they seem to match. I also weighed it and it's coming in at 26g.
If this is the real deal, what do you think it would be worth?
I will post a picture later.
Thank you for your time.
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 Posted 11/22/2015  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Next up for the chopping block is this one that I came across yesterday. It is not magnetic.

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 Posted 11/22/2015  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's made of brass/copper when it should be silver. Thus it is a counterfeit.
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 Posted 11/22/2015  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to NGC some of the 1895 Hupeh Dollars were made of Copper
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