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 Posted 08/26/2011  10:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Do you think Uncle Ben's speech today is going to help or hurt metals prices?
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 Posted 08/26/2011  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think long term nothing has changed, we are still broke with all credit cards maxed out, 3 mortgages on the house, and we lost our job on a national scale. The only thing that might have a hope of changing that is the next election cycle.
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 Posted 08/26/2011  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Helicopter Ben had absolutely nothing constructive to say, so the status quo remains. I'm sure that even though he didn't mention QE3 The Fed will be silently buying Treasuries at auction since very few nations will want them.
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08/26/2011 4:21 pm
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 Posted 08/26/2011  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Junior e said it all.
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 Posted 08/26/2011  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I was trying to be a little positive with the " might have a hope " statement. Without that we have no hope.

I got this in an email the other day, I'll edit it for language.


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THE REAL PROBLEM WITH OUR GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEM.

The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff, can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff. And, The folks who are paying for the free stuff, want the free stuff to stop. And the folks who are getting the free stuff, want even MORE free stuff on top of the free stuff they're getting already! Now, the people who are forcing people to PAY for the free stuff, have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced and racist. So, the people who are GETTING the free stuff, have been convinced they need to HATE the people who are PAYING for the free stuff because they are selfish. And they are promised more free stuff if they will vote for the people who force the people who pay for the free stuff to give them even more free stuff.

And - - - - - that's the Straight

S%*@!

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 Posted 08/26/2011  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the people RECEIVING the free stuff believe that the people PAYING for the free stuff should pony up more free stuff. And if they don't, then the people RECEIVING the free stuff believe they are entitled to TAKE more free stuff from the people that have stuff.

Witness the Tottenham riots in London and elsewhere around England. Even British head honcho David Cameron ADMITS that those riots are a RESULT of the British ENTITLEMENT mentality ENCOURAGED by the British Government.

Our government has been fostering the SAME mentality for DECADES. Soon, the U.S. will see the SAME results.


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If you keep doing the SAME things, you will keep getting the SAME results.

If you don't like the results, you MUST change what you are doing.


Bottom line. America is doing the same thing as the British. America WILL GET the SAME results.
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 Posted 08/26/2011  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I presume that's what all the predictors/doomsayers says about the end of the world in 2012...
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 Posted 08/26/2011  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LastGold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
junior e:

The Health Care Bill will never be fully implemented. For that to happen, the Supreme Court would have to uphold it, AND Obama will have to be re-elected. Both events must occur, because it will be the number one item on the agenda of any conservative president to repeal it.

In most cases, the Supreme Court goes 5-4 with the conservatives: Roberts, Alito, Thomas & Scalia going to the right, the three women Ginsburg, Sotomayer and Kagan (along with the other liberal justice Breyer) going the other way. That leaves the seventh Justice, Kennedy (as usual), the most powerful man in America.... As long as he stays healthy - the odds are that the eventual decision will be to strike down Obama care.

There are many factors that come into play in trying to figure the re-election cycle ... too many to cover here. The political process on both sides is venal and corrupt. (The exception of course is always Ron Paul), but the country is not ready for him (yet). In the aftermath, (with $5000 gold and $300 silver), riots in the streets, and the class warfare to come in the next decade - they will be ready for the next Ron Paul. (let's pray there is one more out there).

The prediction market INTRADE has Obama at about a 51% chance of reelection. https://www.intrade.com.

The next election cycle is the most important one in 100 years, and Obama MUST be defeated. If Obama care stands, I know that the business I work for, will fold up - because they have told me so...

So much more I could write... (but even this, may not survive the moderators).

Pray for our great country, (and stack, extra food, silver and gold)

Best,

LastGold
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 Posted 08/26/2011  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I presume that's what all the predictors/doomsayers says about the end of the world in 2012...


The Mayan calendar restart next year is not any different than any other calendar rollover.

The problem is that people are making a big deal about NOTHING (like the 2K problem in 1999) and blinding people to what IS REALLY HAPPENING. Basically, I consider the Mayan calendar crap to be a HOAX, or SMOKE and MIRRORS, to HIDE what is really happening.
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08/27/2011 01:30 am
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I realize this isn't the forum for politics, but I completely agree with the above comments (junior e and mmerlinn) on how entitlements have painted us into a fiscal corner.

Short-term (5-10 years), I fear of increased rioting/looting worldwide.

Longer-term, I think things will get better though.
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 Posted 08/26/2011  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"junior e:

The Health Care Bill will never be fully implemented. For that to happen, the Supreme Court would have to uphold it, AND Obama will have to be re-elected. Both events must occur, because it will be the number one item on the agenda of any conservative president to repeal it."

Man I hope so Lastgold, as I would seriously consider moving out of the country, if what junior said came to be on health I, 900 a month lol. Yeah right, like I could swing that tiny extra bill a month, it is just delusional behavior by Obama an all the other meat-heads beside him to think most people could.....
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08/26/2011 1:48 pm
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Well, here in Canada we have health care taken out of our taxes (15% base income tax rate, ~7% provincial income tax, and 5-13% sales tax).

As conservative as I am, I must admit that people here in Canada are reasonably healthy and reasonably wealthy. I don't know what conservative Americans think of our lifestyle, but it isn't all that bad.

In fact, we arguably may have a more conservative government than you guys, by the sounds of what's happening in Washington.
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 Posted 08/26/2011  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LastGold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bibd:

It would be difficult for you NOT to have a more conservative government than our own...
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The Mayan calendar restart next year is nothing different any other calendar rollover.

The problem is that people are making a big deal about NOTHING (like the 2K problem in 1999) and blinding people to what IS REALLY HAPPENING. Basically, I consider the Mayan calendar crap to be a HOAX, or SMOKE and MIRRORS, to HIDE what is really happening.


What the hell?

I just paid $12.000 dollars in online storage fees, $223.700 on a underground bunker with panorama windows, stocked up on 16 tons of genetically manipulated carrots, got 3 million rounds of ammunition and even a Zombi Gun that just accidentally went off and tased my kid... (that's my story and I am sticking to it as he can't tell the truth, because his tongue burned off from the hot sauce I fed him earlier)

I ordered a new airplane, so that I can escape to Fantasy Land when the cloud settles. I've got the Survival kit from Mall Wart for $48.000 Dollars, which includes a towel, a quart of water, a rag and a can of catfood + a 1 Ounce Gold Coin, a 1/2 Ounce Silver Coin and 16 pounds of Copper Bullion, E-Seeds which grow from just looking at them and a WWII Machine Gun from a Tank.

Now you are telling me?

DUCK!

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 Posted 08/26/2011  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm really excited to hear that health care isn't going to get the "must have" restrictions of auto insurance. Operating a motor vehicle is entirely a personal choice. Existence isn't. I guess Bernanke's wisdom is good for precious metals. At least he's good for something.
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08/26/2011 4:29 pm
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Duck?! are nukes falling? :P
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