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Black Beauty? Copper Nickel?

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Found some interesting colored coins today hunting 2 boxes. Found a few partial silver nickels too finally!

Anyways, take a look at these 3 nickels. 1 is the normal BU nickel, one looks like it might be a black beauty (1961-D), one looks like it is copper (1978). Put next to a penny, it looks like a penny, the discoloration on the back is some green. The whole edge of the coin is copper colored too. Besides the discoloration on the back, it all all the copper color. Same thickness as a normal nickel.

All 3 coins side by side, front and back. Black beauty in the middle.
Black-Beauty?-Copper-Nickel? Black-Beauty?-Copper-Nickel?

Copper front and back, and next to another regular nickel
Black-Beauty?-Copper-Nickel? Black-Beauty?-Copper-Nickel? Black-Beauty?-Copper-Nickel? Black-Beauty?-Copper-Nickel?

So am I right? Did I find a black beauty and a copper nickel?!?!
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 Posted 08/27/2011  06:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The black beauty:I don't think they have any in 1961.The copper looking one:I think is environmental damage.Also may I recommend you crop your photos before posting.
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The nickel you think of as copper looks like it has a layer of the copper coloring. I can see glimpses of the nickel coloring in between the copper toning, so it looks like you have a normal nickel with copper toning. As far as the "black beauty", that is something that I am not familiar with, so I am unable to render an opinion about that one.
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Did Black Beauties only happen in certain years?
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I thot BB were only 58 and 59, but could be wrong.

The copper one is caused by sintering, a form of exposure to cents. PMD.
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I've gotten a fair number of those copper colored nickels. Some of them really look like shiny copper, but they're always corroded, and if I scratch under the surface, they're nickel colored.
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John1, could you recommend a site for information on a "Black Beauty". Thanks, never heard of them.
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Sorry I don't know of a web site.
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Edit: Here is a book that mentions the black beauty...Frank Spadone's Major Variety-Oddity Guide to United States coins
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Can anyone explain what a Black Beauty is? Never Heard of it
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A black beauty is a nickel, from very certain years, that was "cooked" too long, I think
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Improperly annealed planchet. They're not just black, but have a surface similar to coal.
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