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2011 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin (1-P6)

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How many are buying this over priced Item.

https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/w...62&langId=-1

It is selling for more then the Proof did
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 Posted 08/27/2011  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do YOU believe the price should be?
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$20 per ounce over spot for the W ASE would make the $279 5 ounce P puck cheap in comparison....and collectors complained that it was overpriced

FYI: premium over spot for the 2008 W was $5.70

(spot: $20.25 (when released) cost: $25.95)


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What do YOU believe the price should be?


I believe a fair price would be 10-15% over spot 20% should be absolute Maximum. Definitely not 45%plus
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 Posted 08/27/2011  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The $100 silver per ounce may not be too far ahead, guess what our $100 bill really going to buy in the near future.

Sigh!
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 Posted 08/27/2011  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the mint is just anticipating the same thing we all are. Increase in PMs over the next 6 months.

Sept 15 is a couple weeks away still. We all know how much can happen in two weeks.

If silver hits $50 this wont seems so bad.

But at $40? Yea, pretty over priced.
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I believe a fair price would be 10-15% over spot 20% should be absolute Maximum. Definitely not 45%plus


Why?

In other words, what economic basis are you using to arrive at your conclusion?

I'm very curious.

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In other words, what economic basis are you using to arrive at your conclusion?


I have no economic basis just my own thoughts.
If the mint was a private company (it can't be a private Company because it is a monopoly),
but if it was, Congress would be holding hearings asking why the price is not considered price gouging.
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Although I think the premium is a tad excessive it would not be considered price gouging since it it your option whether to buy it or not.

We are not talking vital supplies in an emergency situation
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 Posted 08/27/2011  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismaniac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that is a lot more than a tad excessive. I know they have to cover themselves in case of a large increase between now and then but that is just too high. Heck, silver could be $30.00 when those are released.
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The $60.95 is the price with spot at $41.60...if spot were to increase significantly before release it would be repriced accordingly....and if the spot price were to drop it would remain at $60.95

It is a one way street
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Wif99, I have to ask, Were you a seabee or were you married to a seebee?
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I got a 2011 ASE today at a show for 48$
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Thats a Bullion ASE though right?
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I have no economic basis just my own thoughts.


Darn. And I fully expected you to say that you had formed your opinion after giving due consideration to - beyond the cost of raw material - total production costs, packaging, storage, marketing, distribution, and sales, including labor costs, equipment, maintenance, utilities, insurance, and all such operating costs of a fully self-supporting organization.

I can't imagine what I was thinking.

Steve
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The Mint's online catalog page for the 2011 American Silver Eagle Proof currently reads:
"This product is temporarily unavailable for product repricing".

Meaning the price on 2011 Proof ASE's will be raised from the original issue price of $59.95,
so at least the Uncirculated "W" coin won't cost more than the Proof at its time of issue.

I'm sure glad I got my 2011 ASE Proofs at the original issue price.
When I buy a 2011-W Unc., I will have to live with the irony that I paid less
for a 2011 Proof coin than I will for the same year's W-Unc. issue.

As far as the "overpriced" thing goes, that's what a lot of people said about the 2010 Proof's issue price of $45.95.

The 2010 Proof sold out before the end of the year, and now any old bullion ASE will cost you what the 2010 Proof did!

Considering what common-date bullion ASE's cost nowadays, why not buy Proofs and Unc.-W's instead, for only a few bucks more?

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Me: ...if I'm going to have to pay $50+ to get any ASE, it may as well be a newly-minted Proof.
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