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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Why is it the vast majority of the 70s small dates on ebay are in fact large dates ( the unslabbed ones I mean). Some even have bids of near twenty bucks. I just find it dispicable people would try and dupe people on this. To me "you be the judge" description far down near the bottom of the listing is a criminal way of doing business. Makes me want to avoid ebay even more |
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United States
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Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. One thing I know is that a lot of people really don't know the difference and truly think they are selling SD's...the rest are just crooks.
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United States
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 precisely what I was going to say, Maineman PS: (are yo getting up for whitetail season) |
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I noticed that too a while ago when I was looking for a small date. I believe they add the "you be the judge" part in there because the seller knows it is a large date. I used to try to report them or tell the seller, but there are just way too many being sold to keep up with. It's sad seeing people waste 20 to 30 dollars on a coin that has only copper value.
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United States
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Even worse with a no return listing. I've seen those, too.
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Pillar of the Community
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CoinsKelly, the example you give of the small date with a bid of almost $20 is one I saw too and that is a large date, no two ways about it.
The second listing I am not so sure about, if I were making the call I would say it is a small date but not confident enough to buy it at that price. To me the inner curl of the 9 looks tampered with to make it look more like a small date than a large, but the 7 looks right. So that is why I make the tentative call that the second one is a small date
Edited by unholyroller
08/30/2011 1:50 pm
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United States
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I agree, that first listing is definitely a Large Date. The second one, I'm not convinced it's a small date. I definitely wouldn't buy it without a better picture.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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LD for #1. #2 is SD--the tilt makes it a tougher read. Doing a quick scan on ebay, it appears that roughly half of the raw "small dates" are the real thing. Edited by DVCollector
08/30/2011 3:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I think CoinsKelly has it right with his 2 examples
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Rest in Peace
United States
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with the posters complaining about deception! I'm sick and tired of the descriptions containing words like, " I'm not a professional grader", or "coins my father/uncle/brother/etc. left me and I know nothing about them." When is this bunk going to be addressed? Some people have too much money and they love to give it away on ebay or TV coin sales! I guess they're happy because "ignorance is bliss." |
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It's also up to the buyer to know what they are buying. If you're unsure or don't want to take the 10 mins. to learn the difference, then buy a slabbed coin. I really don't feel bad for the buyers here, a tiny bit of research will easily solve this problem. And if you can't tell either way from the pictures, move on.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Even collectors here get spun around by the 70-S SD. Be responsible for your education.  However, if you're selling one--it's up to you to do the research. I have never seen a SD on ebay being sold as the common LD.  |
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Quote:I have never seen a SD on ebay being sold as the common LD. Very interesting point you have there. Maybe people who don't know the difference just say it's a small date because it is more expensive. And others are just trying to be crooks. But this whole not knowing thing would be more accurate if large dates were sold as small and some small were sold as large. But you point leads me to believe that most sellers already know and just want free money from buyers. |
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CoinsKelly has it right - the second listing is definitely a small date, and the first one is definitely listed incorrectly. One thing to consider is that MANY people do not know the very easy tell-tale signs to detect the difference, and are honestly selling what they think is a small date, whereas in fact it is not. They aren't necessarily TRYING to dupe people. It's a given that SOME might be doing just that, but the vast majority just don't have a clue and are selling what they think is a real small date. Obviously a number of the bidders don't know any better either. One likely reason why you have not noticed people selling small date cents AS large date cents is two-fold. #1, the small date is quite scarce. Many times when people have them, they know it. #2, the large date isn't worth enough to run on ebay at any kind of profit. A BU example is worth a buck at best. As for my personal experiences with large date and small date 1970S cents - I can tell the difference at an arm's length without a problem. I have been looking at them for 30 years, though. I have cherrypicked dozens of them - in BU and in proof - at shows for a buck or so each. I have nearly a complete BU roll of small dates. |
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I was lucky enough to cherrypick a small date proof for $1. (I couldn't imagine a whole roll, though!)
Once you've seen both large and small date, it's extremely easy to tell them apart. I think the confusion on these (and many other varieties) is due (in part) to the lack of examples held in hand by collectors.
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08/30/2011 9:30 pm
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