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Advice On Cleaned (.91) Coin Values Wanted

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I know everything is a YMMV, but does anyone use a rule-of-thumb as far as buying "cleaned certified coins"?

It seems like some sellers list them at 50% or less of their "non-cleaned" counterparts, some ask the same amount ( which is obviously unacceptable or desirable ) or only discount them maybe 10%, and others discount them to 30% or 40% of what a noncleaned goes for.

I've pretty much disregarded them up until now, but there are a couple I'm eyeing and I'm curious just how much they might be worth down the road - ballpark to a non-cleaned counterpart that is.

Thanks in advance!
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No idea what the "formal" recommendation should be. My own personal rule of thumb is based on the coin's appearance (how minor/major is the cleaning), the rarity of the coin and how long I have been looking for such an example. Most of my guesses are based on trying to find comparable sales.

If it is a very pretty but common coin, the percentage discount I apply to the bid is high (50%+). If the coin is something I have been searching for a long time with decent eye appeal and has no other major flaws, the discount is much lower or very close to what they are asking.

We are just collectors right now but hope that when we "retire", we can supplement our retirement time becoming coin dealers. My husband is a little skeptical of this plan because I have yet to part with a coin!

I would also be interested in what the pros do.
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I asked a couple of dealers at a recent show this same question, they both said they downgrade the coin by 2 full grades when it has been cleaned. I got the impression that is kind of a "standard" that they use. It was a reasonable answer IMO.

I have since bought a couple obviously cleaned coins. One certified IHC that probably would be a MS65 if not for being cleaned - and thus a .91 - so I got it at AU pricepoint. Not sure if I'd be able to get a lot on re-sale one day, but it has outstanding eye-catch which is why I went ahead and bought it - hoping that if I ever do sell it someone else will appreciate that as well.

Then two "raw" Peace dollars I bought at just above melt at a show - that otherwise would be MS63 graded and both are reasonably uncommon dates. At just above melt I figured I couldn't go wrong - can always sell them for the silver down-the-road was my thought there.

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