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 Posted 09/05/2011  12:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hambone to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've never used any of these plastic pages before, but my dealers have binders with these pages full of coins that you can look through. They seem like a good way to organize my messy collection.

So I was looking on the wizard coin supply website, and there are a couple different types of these plastic pages.

There are polypropylene pages which are cheapest, and then vinyl pages which are considerably more expensive. Is there any reason not to go with the cheaper option? Pros, cons?
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 Posted 09/05/2011  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought a box of the 100 -BCW- awhile back I don't like them way to thin. I have some old old old one's that are much heavier that I like better they say "Cownen" on them I don't know if they are still made.
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Vinyl == PVC, so I would stay away from those. Even though they wouldn't be in direct contact with the coins, it still bothers me.

I've been looking for non-vinyl 1.5x1.5 pages because I like those holders better for small coins, but without any luck.
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I've been using the polypropylene 2x2 pages and they are a bit thin, I've had the seams start to come apart on a few pages and if I push the 2x2 up with my fingernail I'll leave a mark. That said, I prefer them over the vinyl pages because of the potential PVC issue. I have vinyl 1.5x1.5 pages and would replace them with polypropylene ones if I could find them.
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Virg Marshall IIIInc. makes their own.

There's also a place in Calif, I think, that makes archival quality for photos, in all coin and foto sizes.
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 Posted 09/07/2011  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hambone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I like the thick ones my dealer had. Has anyone run into any issues with PVC getting past the 2x2s and hurting the coin? You would think the risk level would be low or they wouldn't be selling them.
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Here's the thing with PVC/vinyl. It's not the PVC itself, it's the plasticizers in the PVC. They're volatile and don't stay put. They're what gives a car the "new car smell" (unless you have leather seats, then it's something else). The other thing about plastics is that they're not a true barrier to the degree that something like glass is. They're more like a net or a sieve. Even air-tites are not really air-tight, nor are slabs. Mylar is a very, very good barrier as far as plastics go, maybe 100 times better than "ordinary" plastic, but plasticizers by their design penetrate plastics.

Maybe mylar holders are an effective barrier to green goo, maybe they're not. Maybe somebody else has used vinyl pages for years without problems, but maybe under different environmental conditions where you store your coins, it quickly degrades into the evil green goo.

In theory, PVC could be made with plasticizers that don't harm coins. Maybe newer vinyl coin sheets are made differently. I know phthalates are being phased out in a lot of places because of health concerns. But if there are alternative materials that don't have a history of wrecking coins, I'll go with those any day, even if it means having to replaces pages on occasion because of crappy welds.
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YeH, I guess that's true. I might get some of both just to see what happens.
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