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Regarding The Purple Heart I Posted On This Site

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When I got my 25 year ANA pin, the best term for the layout would be "crooked". Somehow, that seemed vaguely appropriate.
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 Posted 09/12/2011  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Moe, the bottom right medal looks a lot like the Texas Centennial commemorative.
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OK went and checked what the current law actually says. Turns out it is illegal to purchase ANY military decoration authorized for the armed forces. Penalty is a fine and/or six months in prison. If the medal is a Medal of Honor, Purple Heart or one of several others then the penalty is a fine and/or 1 year in prison.

Applicable sections of the law are (This is how the law reads AFTER it was modified by the Stolen Valor Act.

Title 18 Chapter 33 Sec 704

(a) In General.-- Whoever knowingly wears, purchases, attempts to purchase, solicits for purchase, mails, ships, imports, exports, produces blank certificates of receipt for, manufactures, sells, attempts to sell, advertises for sale, trades, barters, or exchanges for anything of value ANY decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof, except when authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

And subsection (d)

(d) Enhanced Penalty for Offenses Involving Certain Other Medals.-- If a decoration or medal involved in an offense described in subsection (a) or (b) is a distinguished-service cross awarded under section 3742 of title 10, a Navy cross awarded under section 6242 of title 10, an Air Force cross awarded under section 8742 of section 10, a silver star awarded under section 3746, 6244, or 8746 of title 10, a Purple Heart awarded under section 1129 of title 10, or any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law, in lieu of the punishment provided in the applicable subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.
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mmec20 has got it right. Anyone can visit medalsofamerica.com and purchase duplicate decorations. I use these folks (all ex vets by the way) when helping families assemble display cases of their veterans service. There is nothing wrong or immoral about doing this. Vintage items are quite collectable.

Here is the finished display case I assembled honoring my fathers service in WW II. The ribbons and medals are new, all other items are original from his uniform. The ribbons on his uniform were just too worn and frayed.

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Thanks to everyone on this forum for going the extra mile by honoring the fallen and their families.
They will never be forgotten.
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Anyone can visit medalsofamerica.com and purchase duplicate decorations.

Not true at all. Veterans with supporting DD-214 paperwork can purchase duplicate medals from them that fall under the Stolen Valor Act but Joe Schmoe off the street most certainly cannot.
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 Posted 09/13/2011  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Gee, I guess all my past orders with them without using a DD 214 or any earlier generation of discharge paperwork really didn't happen then.
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Nod2003 wrote:


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Moe, the bottom right medal looks a lot like the Texas Centennial commemorative.



I can see that!

I never thought about it!

Military medals are actually pretty cool with the same details and minting of many coins.


Here's a blow-up of both sides:


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FYI: this is an Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal. This was presented to me for my participation in the US intervention on the island of Grenada in 1983 during Operation Urgent Fury. The US did this operation to rescue the American students on Grenada after the Cuban Government established a presence on the island US President Ronald Reagan did not like or trust.

(The collection of medals I posted pictures of (and this one) are the small representative one(s) worn on the ceremonial dress uniform, not the full-size ones one is presented with at an awards ceremony. The full-size ones are about 2.5 inches long.)
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I'm also reminded...that we never found my dad's USAF medals. Where did they go?


I bet he never got rid of them. Have you looked all through the boxes and footlockers?
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Penny Guy,

You can argue with me all you want but I did call medalsofamerica.com this morning and verified that they do indeed require DD-214 verification for medals that are governed by the Stolen Valor Act.
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 Posted 09/13/2011  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Military medals are actually pretty cool with the same details and minting of many coins.


Adolph Weinman(of Mercury dime and Walking Liberty half dollar fame) designed the WWI Victory Medal, Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal, European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal, American Campaign Medal, and several others.
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Gee, I guess all my past orders with them without using a DD 214 or any earlier generation of discharge paperwork really didn't happen then.

Oh I'm quite sure you are telling the truth and the transactions occurred, they were just done illegally.
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Gee, I guess all my past orders with them without using a DD 214 or any earlier generation of discharge paperwork really didn't happen then.

Oh I'm quite sure you are telling the truth and the transactions occurred, they were just done illegally.


Quite an accusation Mike
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Oh I'm quite sure you are telling the truth and the transactions occurred, they were just done illegally


Or before the SV act went into effect.
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That's possible, I don't know what the law read before the Stolen Valor act passed. Even if the purchases took place after the act was passed I am not saying that the sales were done in KNOWING violation of the law. Laws change so frequently it is hard to keep up with them and it is easy to execute an action that was legal before but not legal now and not know it.
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