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 Posted 09/10/2011  3:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just bought this coin. It is copper, weighs 2 grams, diameter 2,8 cm, it has an eagle with it head pointing to the right and the other side, the head is facing right.
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 Posted 09/10/2011  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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 Posted 09/10/2011  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its pretty rough, I could only provide details by looking closely and feeling it. Maybe pics later, but it wont help much, for now can we name possibilities.
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 Posted 09/10/2011  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This could be a hard one!

Does the eagle look like the second one on this page:

http://hobbyblog.blogspot.com/2003_...archive.html
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 Posted 09/10/2011  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure of the weight. That seems rather light for such a large coin. The coin would have to be incredibly thin.

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 Posted 09/10/2011  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check these eagles out and see if any are a match

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 Posted 09/10/2011  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It resembles the second one, though its hard to tell. What could it be worth in a rough grade, maybe I could try acetone?
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 Posted 09/10/2011  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oops, it actually 2,4 cm.
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 Posted 09/10/2011  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, DO NOT use Acetone or any other cleaning chemical. If there is any kind of patina or toning you will destroy it lessening any value.

Second, there is no way to tell you what it might be worth till we see a picture. The coin needs to be attributed in order to establish it's rarity and value. The shape the coin is in makes a big difference, but in the case of some rare coins, condition means less.

Third, Ancient coin collecting is so much different from modern coin collecting. It is next to impossible to say an ancient coin is uncirculated. Everything depends on the availability of any given coin and of course its desirability.

Do not be in a rush. The coin has been around for a day or two. If you need to clean it, soak it in olive oil for several days/weeks, cleaning every so often without harsh tools.

Let us know how it is going. There are people here that can help with advice and attribution. Just give us a picture to go on.

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 Posted 09/10/2011  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


JW! Where have you been? I've missed your coins and your questions!

I've even resorted to buying my own coins as I had none of yours to research!
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 Posted 09/10/2011  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BobbyHelmet, I've been around. I've read with interest some of the threads here, but I had nothing of value to add to the discussions.

What coins have you purchased? Anything you would care to share? I love to look at coins of others, especially since I didn't spend any money on them. As for my coins, I've been busy cataloging and am just starting into my Constantine era coins. I spent all day with just Constantine I. My wife thinks I'm crazy spending the hours I do on this hobby. I will need some help now that I'm into the coins of Constantine's sons. I'm sure I have many mis-attributed from earlier days.

I have acquired a couple of nice coins in the past couple of weeks though. What do you think of them? The first is a Caesarea Drachm of Nero and Claudius, and the second is a Denarius of Sep. Severus.

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 Posted 09/10/2011  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll take pictures of mine and post when they all arrive - unfortunately most of them are still in the postal systems of Europe and North America.

I hadn't bought anything for about 6 months and the dull nagging in the back of my head became a shout then a scream. I even resorted to re-cataloguing everything to try and quieten it but it was to no avail.

Both beautiful coins, I've always had a soft spot for Septimius Severus coins. Looking forward to seeing some of Constantines kids coins
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 Posted 09/10/2011  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know that feeling. Why do you think I'm re-cataloging? Opps, I guess we've kind of high-jacked this thread. I'll be posting some Constantine's soon.

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 Posted 09/11/2011  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back to the OP's coin, my first instinct was a Ptolemaic Egyptian coin. Does it look anyhting like any of the coins on this web page? 2 grams is still way too light. Ancient copper coins were typically thick and heavy.

If it's not thick, it might be a more modern bronze coin, done in an "ancient style". The 5 centimes coin from the Second French Empire is an excellent candidate; WorldCoinGallery example.

But we're going to need to see a pic and/or some more description.
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 Posted 09/11/2011  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to find my camera first (thanks for participating Sap) and second, I don't mind people sharing their coins on this post (:
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 Posted 09/12/2011  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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