Attribution Help - Ancient Roman, Likely Provincial

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aboarman Valued Member United States 132 Posts	Posted 09/10/2011 5:57 pm Not a whole lot to go on here, but maybe someone will recognize it. I think it may be a provincial Augustus, based on the bust? Size: 23mm Weight: 7.4g Material: Brass Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 09/10/2011 7:22 pm Sorry, not enough details for me to go on. Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 09/10/2011 9:03 pm I dont think its provincial Augustan. To me the style looks 3rd century, for some reason Numerian popped into my mind. I think the figure is wearing a small radiate crown. It is however a very heavy coin for its size so not sure - will have a think. Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2889 Posts	Posted 09/11/2011 04:50 am I "think" it is a provincial coin - probably of Egalabus - it looks like the back of his head.(possibly Serverus Alexander). The deity on the back with the staff could be Demeter but more likely it's Zeus - both are commonly seen with a staff or long scepter in that sort of pose - but it seems to be more male - that might just be a trick of the wear though. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
aboarman Valued Member United States 132 Posts	Posted 09/11/2011 1:21 pm bobby - the weight through me, too, that's what drew me to the earlier period. numerian, huh? i'll check through my files and see if I get a hit there. bacchus - alex severus would make since, as the coin came from a lot where I've found quite a few from him. any thoughts on the (barely) visible lettering on the reverse reading top to bottom? Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 09/11/2011 3:22 pm I think if you start at the early 3rd century you wont be far off in time. The weight could certainly indicate a provincial but its difficult to console this with the style of the reverse. Adding to the suggestions Bacchus2 made about the reverse initially thought it could be the emperor holding a globe and sceptre but again this has its problems, the main one being the lack of bare legs. On these coins the emperor is usually wearing a military style tunic. I would guess at the figure on yours being female but can see some of the male traits Bacchus2 is alluding to. Will let you know if anything else pops into my head. Edited by bobbyhelmet 09/11/2011 3:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2889 Posts	Posted 09/12/2011 01:25 am It's a difficult one. Bobbyhelmet is right about the leg coverings. His right leg (as he would see it) looks to be bare to the knee as you would expect - but his left looks fully covered - that blob - but it could all just be tricks of the light and the wear. Unless someone knows this particular die it's going to be very hard to nail it down any more. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 09/13/2011 4:20 pm Had a bit more of a 'head scratch' at this one and I think the figure, be it male or female is holding something up. I would guess at that item (from its size and rough shape) to be either an eagle or victory. Its possible that the 'blob' hiding those no doubt lovely legs could be a shield and I think you are correct aboarman that there is some very worn text on the reverse. Perhaps a few characters running down the staff/sceptre or maybe a letter either side of the figure. The 'character' I maybe see bottom right looks like Delta. The text could be your best hope at IDing the coin, not by being able to read it but by looking for similar coins. Even though I said my first thought was Numerian I would now discard any emperor after about the year 240, I would also go back into the 2nd century a bit further than I initially thought likely. This is prob one of those coins that we have all had where it sits for years unidentified until you accidentally happen upon something similar. Edited by bobbyhelmet 09/13/2011 4:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
aboarman Valued Member United States 132 Posts	Posted 09/14/2011 02:04 am I came across a coin on ebay that got me thinking about Trajan. What do you all think? Here are some more photos - these were taken with as much side lighting as I could manage, so there should be more detail visible. Thanks for all the ideas! Report this Post to the Staff
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