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I am going to go through my collection in the next few days and would like to and post images of my barbaric imitations. I think it would be an interesting thread to see all the different types, so I invite you to post what you have. Here is the first one.   I believe this is suppose to be Constantinius II Fallen Horse.
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I don't think I have any barbaric imitations in my collection, but I will take a look through to make sure. I'm in the process of re-cataloging, so I may run into some. If I do, I'll post here.
JW
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I know off the top of my head I have one. I will upload a pic tomorrow. Cool idea for a thread!
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A fascinating area, I've got quite a few so will post when it seems appropriate. I've been trying to research some of them recently so this could help!
Think I see a fallen horseman (is it upside down?), the text certainly looks to resemble little by the way of real words.
Edited by bobbyhelmet 09/14/2011 9:37 pm
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I don't seem to have any, but, if I remember correctly, the legend on many of the barbarous issues were meaningless. Some just XXX or OOO or both.
JW
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Probably a barbarous imitation Urbs Roma/Constantinopolis hybrid. 
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Similar to what you said yesterday about the facing of busts - this is a die cutters 'schoolboy error'.
I think thats a great coin Doucet - It covers so many popular areas of collecting I'd be amazed if it didn't sell very well if put up to auction. I paid £40 for an 8mm barbarous minim once in a bidding war!
Edited by bobbyhelmet 09/15/2011 12:58 am
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A couple of mine - I think these are loosely based around Tetricus I Invictus coins, an exapmle of an official one is at the bottom of the post.  15mm - The only visible text looks like 'VCƎII' - A star above a shield perhaps on the reverse? Unknown find location, possibly France.  8mm - No text at all - This one also seems to have something below the star on the reverse but I cant make it out fully. UK found.  This is the above coin on a UK 2p just to show how small it is.  This is the original reverse of the coin.
Edited by bobbyhelmet 09/15/2011 9:31 pm
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Nice!, keep them coming. I'm still looking for more of mine.
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bobbyhelmet, I think this imitation is trying to depict the same thing yours are.  
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Here is one that is supposed to be a Costantine Argentus.  
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 I have no idea what this coin is trying to imitate - maybe a Constantine? Valens? Comments, please. Edited to add: I did a 180-degree rotate on Photobucket to get the reverse right-side up.
Edited by pls 09/15/2011 10:30 pm
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I think it is similar it's another Constantine argentus.
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Hi pls
nice barbarous coin.
I believe though, the image of the reverse is upside down. If it is turned over you can clearly see two soldiers facing each other with maybe a standard in between and something in the exergue.
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The bust certainly looks strange enough to be non-official echizento. I dont know much about these coins so cant really add anything else. Quote: bobbyhelmet, I think this imitation is trying to depict the same thing yours are Something interesting I read about the Tetricus (I+II) coins recently was that the reverse dies were changed far less often than the obverse ones, maybe 3 or 4 times less often. I'd often wondered why Tetricus coins showed such consistent uneven wear across the two sides. Take the example below:  Tetricus II SPES from around 273/4. The obverse is almost as struck (my pics dont really do it justice) while the reverse looks worn apart from the text. I think the reverse is also pretty much as struck and this was about as good as production got. Note also how the reverse figure looks almost barbarous as it has obviously been cut quickly and without much care. I think your coin could be official ancientcoinguy as what is left of the obverse looks to be relatively official (scale/style/size etc), if your interested in investigating further try to take some closer pics and we'll see what we can work out.
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