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1964 Nickels Wrecked With Tarn-X

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 Posted 09/14/2011  9:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pinky to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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I feel so dumb. I just wrecked 20 1964 & older nickels by dipping them in Tarn-x. A Susan B. Anthony too. Is there any way to make them silver again?
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Both of my suggested will cause some damage to the coin, but you've probably already ruined them with TarnX. Both are methods I, or other people, use to clean up clad found through metal detecting (decades in the ground does a number on coins!).

You can put them in a rock tumbler with some gravel. This will essentially grind or polish off the corrosion. Of course it will also physically wear the coin to do it which would affect the condition.

You can also put the coins in vinegar. It will take hours to days. You need to take it out from time to time to wipe off some of the corrosion that the acid has loosened (so it can get to the lower layers). Eventually it will be silver again. It will add a dull finish to the coin, but TarnX may have done that already.
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 Posted 09/14/2011  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vanbroj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it makes you feel any better those coins are most likely not high value...
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First, I'm sorry you ruined your coins.

Second, to the Forum.

Third, you wrote:


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Is there any way to make them silver again?



I'm confused about what you want to do. These coins were never silver to start with...


From our CCF US Coin Facts:


Monticello Nickel Planchets (1946-2003)
Weight:5 grams
Content:75% Copper 25% Nickel
Diameter:21.2 millimeters Edge:Plain
Designer:Felix Schlag


Susan B. Anthony Dollar Specifications
Content:Cladding: 75% copper 25% nickel Core: 100% Copper
Weight:8.1 grams
Diameter:26.5 millimeters Edge:Reeded
Designer:Frank Gasparro


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 Posted 09/15/2011  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kylecolb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If it makes you feel any better those coins are most likely not high value...


unless those were key dates or silver War Nickels consider yourself lucky..otherwise only worth about 5 cents then..
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I assume he means that he thought TarnX would make the coins nice and shiny and silver colored again. I'm guessing it turned the nickels reddish brown. At least that was what I was thinking when I posted above.


Pinky, I guess I should add that there are very few situations where you want to clean a coin. Your coins are already trashed so my suggestions won't hurt. Don't use TarnX again even if you have a real silver coin and don't wipe them either.
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Many substances can change the color of coins. Some dishsoaps change coins blue for example. Tarn-X is basically for cleaning metals of all types. However, pending on if the stuff you used was also used prrviously for something else, could have left a layer of something on the coins too. Also, it is obvious that the Tarn-X reacted with Nickel/Copper.
It is possible to make them look like a Nickel again but might mess them up even more and the cost is really not worth the effort. If you feel like experimenting, you could try dipping them further in Olive Oil, boiling them in water on the stove, soaking them in Vinegar or even Lemon Juice. Some people use Tomato Juice, Lime Juice, battery acid or Acetone too. You could check to see if there is any Jewlery cleaner in the house and use some of that.
HOWEVER, since some are 1964, I'd just spend those.
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 Posted 09/15/2011  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pinky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, you guys are sure helpful, and friendly too! As if you couldn't tell, I don't know anything about coins. I had this roll of nickels which had belonged to my grandparents and my grandfather had written 'silver' on the roll... so, I guess what I'm getting from you guys is that there were no silver nickels. I had expected to sell them.

Thanks for the responses!

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 Posted 09/15/2011  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lion4Life to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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guess what I'm getting from you guys is that there were no silver nickels.


The only silver nickels made were from 1942 to 1945, they can be easily identified by the large mint mark over the dome of Monticello.
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Welcome to CC!

1) NEVER clean coins
2) Once cleaned, you've crossed the line and there's no turning back.
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pinky. As you saw, you'll always get helpful advice from the forum members.
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Well, you guys are sure helpful, and friendly too! As if you couldn't tell, I don't know anything about coins. I had this roll of nickels which had belonged to my grandparents and my grandfather had written 'silver' on the roll... so, I guess what I'm getting from you guys is that there were no silver nickels. I had expected to sell them.

Thanks for the responses!


Like previously mentioned, silver nickels were minted during World War II and can be identified by the large mint mark on the reverse above the Monticello building. If they were not in that great of condition and you cleaned them, then it still isn't that big of a deal. There were no real key dates for War Nickels. You could still sell them for their silver value. Although you won't get as close to the spot price because the nickels are only like 35% silver or something like that.
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Tarn-X is Dangerous & Destructive!

As a specialist in silver restoration, conservation, and preservation, I have many years of knowledge about chemical dips, especially Tarn-X. I routinely receive objects for refinishing due to damage from this horribly destructive product.

Tarn-X works by dissolving the tarnish (and silver!) on an object at an accelerated rate.

Tarn-X will quickly remove factory-applied patinas (if left in the solution for more than a few seconds) or gradually (if dipped quickly each time the object requires cleaning). You'll notice a soft white surface develop over time.

Tarn-X will quickly strip the shine from silver, leaving a dull, lifeless appearance.

Tarn-X will cause pitting of the object's surface. These surface defects will act like a sponge and more readily absorb tarnish-producing gases and moisture. The object will eventually require professional polishing to restore the original finish.

Tarn-X is made up of acidified thiourea (a known carcinogen). Acids are corrosive and will damage silver, niello, bronze, stainless steel knife blades, and organic materials such as wood and ivory.

Tarn-X, when used on objects that have sealed components, such as candlesticks and trophies with hollow feet, or teapots with hollow handles, may leak into the cavity through small holes or imperfections in the joints. At this point, it becomes virtually impossible to wash the chemical out. If you're working on a baby cup with this type of rim, do you really want an infant drinking from it after using Tarn-X?

And these are the results from using Tarn-X: http://www.hermansilver.com/tarn-x.htm.


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08/02/2014 11:32 pm
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Knowing not to clean coins is an important lesson to learn. I'm glad that the coins you learned this on weren't worth much to begin with! Well, now you know and keep enjoying the hobby!
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Cleaning coins is really not the best way to go....One must be careful with what one uses but more on that later.
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to the forum Silversmith'

Always good to have people knowledgeable in precious metals.
Just curious though, what brought you here to reply to a three year old thread ?
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