Counterfeit/Fake Contemporary Silver Coin? 2 Pesetas, 1870 Spain

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Kingz Pillar of the Community Netherlands 626 Posts	Posted 09/17/2011 4:18 pm I believe the coin on the left is a fake, but I am not sure about this So I hope someone with more experience on this matter could verify this. The coin on the right is real, although unfortuanetly a hanger was made of it (probably also contemporary) I bought it in a lot of older coins, of which most were cleaned... but I do not think that cleaning a coin can get rid of more than 3 grams of silver As all the 2 Pesetas should weigh about 10 grams with 0.835 Silver, but this coin weighs only 6,94 Grams! It looks fairly well made speaking of mintmark and such, so I'm in doubt about it all. HELP Edited by Kingz 09/17/2011 4:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16869 Posts	Posted 09/18/2011 06:07 am Yep, it's a cast fake. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Kingz Pillar of the Community Netherlands 626 Posts	Posted 09/18/2011 07:40 am so is that a contemporary fake coin? Or is it made in more recent years? And if so, does it still holds any value if it was made back in the days! As I heard somewhere that fake coins might be more valuable sometimes then the real coin... I don't think that's the case here, but I never know if I don't ask :) Report this Post to the Staff
Kingz Pillar of the Community Netherlands 626 Posts	Posted 09/24/2011 8:37 pm Sap, I heard on the Dutch forum from someone that it very well could be a real one... As he could not find any "tracks" for casting, and that it probably would be a shipwreck coin or that it at least has been out in the saltwater for a long time. As he also pointed out that a Silver coin will can weigh less after being exposed in the sea for long a time. As I highly appreciate your knowledge and information base, could you perhaps respond on that particular idea? Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 10/03/2011 9:56 pm I agree with Sap the coin is a casting and the surface appearance is due to blooms of zinc on the surface. The "shipwreck effect" is actually not going to result in this particular appearance. The technology used to make the forgery covers the period from about 1890 to 1950 and was extremely popular in the US in the 1920s and 1930s. I would class it Contemporary but late. This counterfeit is VERY common and is worth only a couple dollars. By the way loss of 3 grams of silver takes FAR more than cleaning. Coins are made with a low relief so that a 10 grams coin worn to 8 grams WILL HAVE DO DETAILS REMAINING. There is ZERO chance the coin is real. Report this Post to the Staff
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