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Lathe Lines On 1971-S Proof Eisenhower Dollar?

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 Posted 09/20/2011  01:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This series of RAISED, parallel lines were spotted last night on this 1971-S Proof IKE...the coin has the DDO-O22, CPG FS-106 spread, and is a monster DDO...reading about it in the IKEGROUP.ORG's new book, "Collectible IKE varieties Facts, Photo's & Theories", Lulu Press, 2011, it states there are numerous burr cuts on many letters, which are present...these cuts, it is theorized, were made during hubbing, by the Janvier Lathe cutting process, which transfers the original IKE galvano onto a Master Die, and, then to early working hubs, then to working dies. The IKE group suggests the mint workers did not bother to abrade, or, hammer out the scalloped cut marks, on these early "Test" product hubs, that were called Master Dies, later versions of these dies, they suggest, were cleaned up, or, a finer cutting tool was used, removing the cuts present on many DDO-O22 coins, as the work progressed into cleaner coinage...The thinking is these early die trail strikes were somehow considered good enough quality, that they ended up for inclusion in shipping stock?...an interesting theory, for sure...
So, I wrote Rob Ezerman, Lead Author of the new IKE book, sent these photo's of the lines running from D to O in Dollar, on reverse, and, he had never seen them before, perking his interest..he thought they may be something related to the Lathing on these die trails...
Curious what members think here...1 line is INSIDE the D, the rest are outside..there are some polished out lines running from the O, towards L, and, thin ones running backwards, from the N, in ONE, back to the O..can try and shoot pics to add.... The fact that they are parallel, and, equidistant, gives a small hint they may be "Lathe Lines"...
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Calvin G.

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Looks like you're using a scanning electron microscope at 1000X just to see what you're trying to show.

If it's not easily visible under a 10X loupe...I don't think it's even worth mentioning, much less collectible.
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 Posted 09/20/2011  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey look there's a tiny colony of bacteria on my silver dollar, and I think one of them is waving at me.
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My buddy Lee Gong feels the same way..if he can't see an error with naked eyes, or, a say 7x loupe, he AIN"T interested...you missed the point of this posting..it's not about collectibilty factor, it's about a piece of the puzzle with the 71-S DDO-O22, and "siblings", which some believe were test run strikes, that somehow ended up in Brown boxes, a theory pretty hard to prove, but, may someday fly.....these lines may help explain the burr cut remnants, and, if anything, may end up being a very good marker for this die. The lines are visible with my standard 7x loupe, not unlike the lathe lines I find on 1996-D cents, but, my poor camera is so old, I had to use my crappy led scope to grab them...time to upgrade equipment for shooting. When Rob E. tells me he has never seen these before, it perks my interest, as he has viewed truckloads of IKES. All of this "stuff" is in chapter 16 of the new IKE book, by lead Author Rob Ezerman..highly recommended, if you want to learn the latest on IKES.
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