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Has The Satin Finish Turned You Off To Mint Sets?

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For me it has. To me they are different coins. I'd prefer buying mint sets than getting these junk singles I been getting off ebay. What are your thoughts on the Satin Finish? Do you consider them a different coin? Also I would like to add that mint sets are just too large and can't justify paying what the mint is charging but a bunch of the coins I don't even want, the ATB coins and the edge lettering dollars.
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Higher graded (Pf69 & up) are far & few between. I have been snagging them for what I consider cheap vs. pop. reports.

Many collectors do not make a distinction & break the sets as BU for albums.

They may get more popular in the future, but until the album makers make a distinction the lower grades will not be as collectable.
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I can only speak for the cents but I like them. I do not consider them different coins but rather different strikes. I like having them next to the standard business strike for comparison. I just received the 2011 P&D mint cents yesterday. They are not satin but they are beautiful.
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I like them very much, but it seems most collectors do not.
I am one who does break mint sets to fill the holes in my albums.

The reason I like them is because, if they are considered a different
coin, then they have a much lower mintage. And in most cases they are
of a higher grade.

Not sure what direction your going with this? I am pretty sure current mint
sets no longer have satin finish coins.
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That is interesting as I have never heard about the satin finish being discontinued until just now. Never seen it mentioned here before.
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I like the satins, but they are definately different from the biz strikes and I keep them separately.
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Didnt they stop making the satin finish on mint sets? I could be wrong, but I thought 2010 was the last year for that.
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Oddly enough I never even looked at any of them. Every Year I order proof and uncirc sets for Christmas presents. I've heard from some of the people I give them to that some are not in good shape but since they are just presents, I tell them don't be picky. I never open any of mine anymore so I didn't even know of the satin or no satin finish. All of mine are in several boxes just as they came from the Mint. Someday I'll open them all and look.
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When you say mint set, you don't mean proof set right? Is the mint set like an UNC coin set from a given year? Maybe someone can post a link to a mint set on the US Mint website so I can see exactly what you are talking about.
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...but they are definately different from the biz strikes and I keep them separately.
I agree.

The satin finish are really a middle-of-the-road beast between business strike and proof. They should also have their own holes and kept separate. Kudos to those that have made an effort to do so in their collections.

My real problem with them is how they were sold. I would have preferred that they were sold as an alternative to an also available circulation strike mint set.
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One of the problems with the satin finish coins was that not all of the coins actually had a satin finish. They vapor blasted the dies to get that finish, but if you happened to get some coins that were struck later in the die life, the special finish had worn off the dies and they looked like regular business strikes. So, for a given coin, out of context, there's not a clear way to tell for sure if it's just a nicer business trike coin or a quasi-proof satin finish coin, or something in-between.
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Going in another direction here, but I wish the mint set packaging was the way it used to be. Although the new packaging is attractive, I would say most bust the sets open anyways. The old packaging was easier to open.
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For your references, here are some article confirming the discontinue of Satin Finish Mint Set: http://coinblog.org/no-more-satin-f...h-mint-sets/ and here http://coinnetwork.ning.com/forum/t...omment:93283

You can also read the detail descriptions of the 2010 vs 2011 mint set.
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I also thought that the vapor blasting was done to the coins not the dies. I know that is the case on the 5oz ATBs.
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Nope, the dies received the treatment. There is no way they could individually do that to each coin as there would just be too many, the entire Mint Set run would equal several million quarters. It is feasible for the 5oz ATBs due to their limited mintages.


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Is the mint set like an UNC coin set from a given year?

Yes, a P&D set of all circulating designs.
http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wc...ory_rn=10211
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For comparison: 2010 and 2011 LSC

Business/Satin Finish versus Business/Mint Set

http://sumrallworks.com/coins/image...10&year=2010

http://sumrallworks.com/coins/image...10&year=2011

Don't let the scans fool you, the 2011 SMS are nice.

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