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just carl Bedrock of the Community United States 20753 Posts	Posted 09/28/2011 6:13 pm Quote: What would cause such a massive increase in under-reporting that it would transform an alleged increase in crime into a decrease? Not meaning to make this post into a crime/no crime situation but simply read all the previous replies. The facts about finding valuable and/or rare or even proof coins in change is NOT due to the Mint putting them there. Yes in some instances a kid may have gotten into their parents collections. But a great, great deal of those coins popping up in change is due to home robberies, coin store robberies, collectors and dealers being robbed to and/or from a coin show. Report this Post to the Staff
COINAHOLIC Rest in Peace United States 1501 Posts	Posted 09/28/2011 6:47 pm DJMonty, well checking through my little cubby's for the UK... I found two 1975 1 penny's! So as long as they are circulating, I'd say your chances are pretty good! Report this Post to the Staff
biggfredd Rest in Peace United States 9104 Posts	Posted 09/28/2011 11:53 pm Quote: What would cause such a massive increase in under-reporting that it would transform an alleged increase in crime into a decrease? Every time the sheriff runs for re-election, they manage to find their gardener is growing pot in the parking lot. Why under-report crime? If crime is down, we're doing a great job. Report this Post to the Staff
hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 12:13 am As has already been mentioned to some extent. In my neck of the woods, budget cuts have caused the police force to lay off so many officers that they don't even respond to crimes anymore unless they are serious. They even admitted this in public statements to news agencies in efforts to garner public support for more funds. They don't even respond to minor assaults (unless one of the involved parties is the one calling), car break ins, simple theft, vandalism etc... 911 has so few employees that it's often busy when you call. As far as more serious crimes, they do respond but since they also don't have the investigation resources...rapes are written up as assaults unless they are heinous. Strong armed robbery as theft or criminal mischief. Stats say we're down across the board, except for murder of coarse because you can't call that anything other than what it is. We've had more of those already this year than in the past 25 years and there are 3 months left to go. Report this Post to the Staff
CaptainFwiffo Pillar of the Community United States 4132 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 12:32 am So on the one hand, we've got actual data, compiled over decades by experts on the subject, with a rigorous, published methodology. On the other, we have anecdotes, feelings, hand-waving, and no data whatsoever. As yet, nobody's cited any actual evidence of an increase in crime, or anything to refute the data that shows crime has declined. Probably some of the proof coins and other oddities you find in change are from stolen coin collections, but they're just as likely inheritances that people don't care about, or Christmas gifts given to people who don't care about coins. Finding proofs in change or roll hunting is pretty uncommon regardless (but not unheard of). Edited by CaptainFwiffo 09/29/2011 12:33 am Report this Post to the Staff
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