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There have been some recent hyperinflations, and of course, Germany in 1923.

Can you name the major country that underwent a 100:1 devaluation in 1960?

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Zimbabwe springs to mind but that was recent.
How about Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay
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No, those are all recent.

The French franc, which was worth around 20ยข US, underwent a 100:1 devaluation in 1960. Imagine handing the teller $20, and getting back two shiny new dimes.

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France had a 100:1 devaluation in 1960, but currency reform does not necessarily qualify as "hyperinflation". To be technically considered hyperinflation, the daily, monthly and annual inflation rates have to be much higher than experienced by France prior to 1960. The Wikipedia article mentions most of the hyperinflations of the 20th century; France isn't among them.

Hungary 1946 still holds the record for world's worst hyperinflation, though Zimbabwe probably would have overtaken them by now if they hadn't given up.
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I have absolutly no idea biggfred.
Was it one os the US silver coins that were debased?
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Hungary 1946 still holds the record for world's worst hyperinflation, though Zimbabwe probably would have overtaken them by now if they hadn't given up.


Zimbabwe was forced to give up. The German company printing all that worthless paper simply told Mugabe to get lost. And no one else would print the stuff.
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Why would you have a 100:1 currency reform if there wasn't some serious inflation going on?
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Why would you have a 100:1 currency reform if there wasn't some serious inflation going on?

If there wasn't a serious inflation problem
The french government scoared bigtime on a sideways tax
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There had indeed been inflation, but it had built up over a long time, since WWI. Specifically, it happened in two bursts, a rapid drop 1914-1918 and a slower decline from 1937 to 1949. Graph.. In 1960 itself, inflation had mostly been low and stable for a decade - which is presumably why the French chose that moment to reform the currency.

Another excellent example of currency reform after a long slow period of regular inflation is Turkey. In 2005, the Turkish lira was replaced by the new Turkish lira at a rate of 1,000,000:1. Six zeroes lopped off. Evidence of hyperinflation? No, just evidence of slow, gradual ordinary inflation, dating back to 1970. A key indicator of whether the inflation is "hyper" or not, from a numismatist's perspective, is the existence of circulating coinage covering most of the inflationary range. Coinage is supposed to last for a long time in circulation, and governments that know a coin's face value is going to quickly fall below it's metal value simply stop making coins. You won't find a circulating hyperinflationary German coin bigger than 500 marks, whereas you can find old Turkish lira coins with face values up to 250,000 lira.

Reforming the currency while it is still in freefall, on the other hand, is a sign of hyperinflation. Zimbabwe, Israel, Brazil, Peru and others have all tried this, apparently in the belief that changing the name of the ship from "Titanic" to something else would stop the ship from sinking.

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Imagine handing the teller $20, and getting back two shiny new dimes.

In France in 1959, the 20 franc coin (which replaced the 20 franc note in 1950) was 23mm across and made of aluminium-bronze; it's 1960 replacement, the 20 centime coin, was 23mm across and made of aluminium bronze - only the design and the name of the denomination had changed, the physical properties of the coin stayed exactly the same - it helped make the transition smooth.
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