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I was putting some more IHC's in my Dansco last night and was wondering about something. I generally push the coin down just under the surface so the slide clears the surface. I don't see how, if the slide made contact, it would damage VF IHC's. It's plastic against copper. BTW, I see no damage on my coins  I have been using Dansco's for years and have contemplated this. Thoughts? swcoin.ecrater.com
Edited by vermontensium 09/25/2011 6:22 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Any Album that uses plastic slides to protect the coins is also a possible place to get them scratched by those same slides. Naturally if you do not put them in and out frequently, the chances decrease of damage. The main problem people encounter is the very end of the slides. In some Albums they are rounded off to make them go past the edges of each slot. Some are just cut off sharp on the corners. What happens frequently is the sharp edged ones get stuck in the corners of a slot and people tend to push hard to get them in and bend the edges. Next time they are taken out or put back in, those bent edges can and sometime do cut accross a coin. Pushing them down as you do helps protect them from that but that is as long as you don't move the rear ones frequently too. Other problems that are not as common are small bumps in the slides that also could do as noted above. These are usually from people placing them on something sharp or bumpy when changing of adding coins to an Album. AND, not all Albums are made the same. Dansco's are made rather well with the slides the right size. Some Albums are made with slides that are a bit to small so they move around in their slots.
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I've seen the slides in Dansco albums slightly scruff the edge of some coins which might be sitting too high or at an angle. I can't see it lowering the grade unless the coin is at least MS-66.
On the other hand, I've seen coins in a whitman album fall out and start sliding around inside between the holes because the whitman slides were more flimsy. That'll possibly turn a CH BU into an AU coin.
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Thanks guys, I feel better after all these years :-) I have only done it one way, coin is placed in it's slot, push down top of coin first, then both sides of coin (on VF cents, I don't wear gloves but rather use the tip of my finger...gives me a better feel of how far down coin is) and slide very slowly, the plastic slide. Sometimes it gets very close to top of coin but goes flat right over it...I make sure!
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I started thinking about this too as soon as I got some "nicer" coins in my Dansco's. I'm always careful to make sure that the coins are just under the surface so they're less likely to be scratched. I would also think that lowering the grade would really only be a concern on very high grade MS coins.
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I don't see a problem with VF cents and slides at all. You should always wear gloves. If you don't have gloves use a tissue. If the coins are already completely brown you might never notice. If the VF coins are RB, then you're going to see those fingerprints look terrible after a few years.
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I usually wear gloves but these VF IHC's are BN. I suspect they have seen enough hands touching them in the past and I always wash my hands with fragrance free soap before I do this. okiepb, I also don't think the plastic slides would adversely affect a VF IHC, even if contact was made. I would be concerned if the coins were proof or MS for sure, and the album as just carl pointed out, had bent or scuffed up edges. My album is brand new.
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Edited by vermontensium 09/25/2011 10:31 pm
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The reason plastic slides can cause damage is dust. Most airborne dust is silca, hardness of 7, much higher than coinage metals. Plastics also tend to develop static charges which attract dust. If the slide makes contact with the coin, as it is moved it drags that nearly microscopic dust across the surface like sandpaper. once or twice you would probably never notice, but over time it has a cumulative effect.
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Again, so much really depends on the brand of Album too. I've had almost every type and brand of Album made lately. I USED to be a Whitman fanatic and thought people that kept harping on Dansco did so sort of just copying others. Some years back I started asking dealers at coin shows what they did with Albums they bought up as collections. Most said they thow them away so I said how about giving them to me. Due to this I've had Dansco, Whitman, Littleton, Harris, USMint Products and several more ones I can't remember. As to those slides the one thing that really ticks me off with most manufacturers is how they try to save money on slides that are a bit to small in height. This means not only could they slightly damage a coin in movement, but they sometimes leave a space where air, moisture and as noted dust could accumulate. Out of all the ones I've had it appeared that only Dansco slides were consistantly the right size. Naturally this only based on possibly several hundred Albums and all used. Also, as already noted Whitman pages tend to have the outer layer of paper come loose allowing coins to fall inbetween the pages. That too can cause scratches.
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The only thing I'm worried about is my 1921 Peace dollar in my 7070. It was a real challenge getting the slide to even go over the coin. I'll just wait until I have the rest of the coins for that section to take the slide out again.
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Quote: The reason plastic slides can cause damage is dust. Interesting. My Dansco was brand new, wrapped in cellophane. I just opened it to put my 25 IHC's in it. Like I said, I am always careful and watch the slide go right over the top of the coin. I think I am just being overly paranoid. I always am with my coins  The slides are a tight fit and perfectly cut IMO. I have never used any other album 
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I always worry about damage in dansco's--I guess just be very careful!
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Got a related question.....I have been concerned about the scratched slides in a couple of my Danscos. For instance, I have recently completed a Roosie Dansco and some of the slides have been scratched from the multiple times they have been taken out and in. Does anyone know if Dansco (I havent found any) produces replacement slides? They would be helpful on my completed sets that I wont be sliding in and out any more.
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I have never seen replacement slides sold separately. However, you can improvise by purchasing cellulose acetate sheets at most art or office supply stores. If you are of a certain age, you may remember overhead projector transparency sheets used by grade school and high school teachers. They are also used as protective covers for artwork. Album slides are composed of cellulose acetate as well but the downside is that you will have to cut the full sheets down to the proper size for an album.
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I feel stupid for writing this post because I'm not offering actual good information....but, I remember that I have seen the slides offered for sale separately on some website, I just cannot remember where. So I know it does exist. It was sold specifically for Dansco if I remember correctly.
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Allegedly you can ask the manufacturer for a replacement set and they'll sell them to you, even though they're not really advertised as a separate product.
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